Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

I don't think smoking gun means what you think it means.

He is filing charges as soon as he has the evidence to do so, a smoking gun would be just that. Filing charges doesn't mean he has to stop investigating. Have people forgot that he's filed charges on nearly 20 people already?

He isn't holding back evidence for some grand reveal, this isn't a TV drama... it is real life.

 

Could be Mueller be starting small and working his way up to the ladder?

 

How do you know he's filling charges "as soon as he has evidence"?

 

In what world do you live in, where filing charges ends an investigation? The investigation can and does lead up to trial, and in many cases even continues during trial. Evidence gathering is available as long as both sides haven't rested their case.

And any additional charges can be filed at anytime, even after the first case ends. Manafort has three separate trials.

 

Naw dude, Svpernaut's guesses are far more credible.

 

What are you arguing at this point? I agree. Filling charges especially to those surrounding the main subject on an investigation to see if they are willing to cooperate such as Flynn doesn't mean the investigation ends?

What are you disagreeing with?

 

That more than 20 people have been charged with those closest to Trump already pleading guilty or being found guilty. If there was a smoking gun, it would have come out already.

People don't have to turn on Trump to cooperate with the investigation. Trump can pardon them. Literally anyone could fall on the sword for him, and he can get them out of it. That's the point.

 

Why exactly?

 

You thinking that people charged would turn on Trump is flawed, because Trump can just pardon them. I'm not the delusional one here.

 

I'll repeat myself.

People don't have to turn on Trump to cooperate with the investigation. Trump can pardon them. Literally anyone could fall on the sword for him, and he can get them out of it. That's the point.

 

This is what defending/supporting/enabling donald trump leads to... and why does tucker carlson always look like he is squeezing one out?

 

I hear some of my farthest left friends use this line of thought. They are people who seethe with rage at all things DNC and HRC.

But it makes no logical sense (the argument, I mean). Outcomes can have many causes, but you must first blame those that voted for outcome A when outcome A happens, versus those who voted for a different outcome, no matter their imperfections and flaws. I mean, do what you like, of course, particularly with rabid far-left company, but it's not a compelling argument in this case.

The Rockets players who didn't play in game 7 are just as culpable for 0-27 as those who missed the shots in the game b/c they should have performed better in practice and earned playing time. ... Ummm... yeah.

 

Alan Dershowitz definitely #WalkedAway

 

Based on what? Building a case that could withstand going to court takes time.

Guilty of what? If Mueller brings forth a case of breaking finance campaign laws and money laundering that is solid enough to go to court, what happens? Impeachment would be probable even given the lack of Democratic majority in the Senate.

Fortunately Mueller's breadth at which he can go is wide, as we see with Manafort. Who knows if Mueller is looking into Trump's business practices and how far back. Considering Trump's ties with Russian money....

Well right now the government is controlled by the GOP, all 3 branches and the GOP has had Congress for 8 years.

 

Right and cases take time to build in the real life.

 

You are clueless how this works, aren't you? lol

Just wait til his children are indicted........lol.

 

After all, what would Lanny Davis know?

 

A lawyer saying anything in defense of his client. Color me shocked I tell you, shocked!

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/08/a-bad-day-in-court.php

excerpt:

As we and others have said many times, what is going on in the courts is mostly theater–unless, of course, you are Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen. President Trump can’t be indicted, so legal niceties are not very material. The Mueller Switch Project has three objectives: 1) furnish House Democrats (assuming they take the majority in November) with ammunition to impeach the President; 2) help the Democrats to win the midterm elections; and 3) make President Trump’s re-election less likely in 2020.

Today’s legal developments unquestionably represent a step forward for the Democrats on all three fronts. But in principle, there is no reason why they should change the landscape. Manafort’s conviction has nothing to do with Trump. And no matter how Mueller may try to dress it up with talk about campaign finance–which voters don’t care about, anyway–the Cohen plea simply confirms what we already knew–that Trump tried to keep Stephanie Clifford quiet. That may be a big deal to Melania, I can’t speak for her. But I doubt that it is a big deal to a significant number of voters, and I doubt that tomorrow’s headlines will move the needle on the midterm election.

So, yeah, President Trump had a bad day in court. But it could have been worse. He could have been kicked to death by a moose.​