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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. No Worries

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    He is suffering from ... Trump Derangement Syndrome. I hear it is going around.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Hillary would have won if democrats voted like republicans, who understand how to win. Sometimes you have to just hold your nose and vote for the person.
     
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  3. Svpernaut

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    You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. 8% of Bernie voters voted for Trump. Trump won the presidency by fewer than 130,000 votes across five states. Bernie voters, and DNC voters who went third party (the largest 3rd party turnout since 1996) is why we have Trump.

    But, the Democrat's refusal to accept as much is par for the course.

    He cares about his policies, because most of what he is doing is to increase his wealth and connections post presidency. He is literally running the White House as if he was the CEO of a slimy corporation.

    I didn't vote for Trump... and the argument could be made that the ones fighting a losing battle could be considered the deranged ones. To each their own.
     
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  4. JeffB

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    Somebody is sure working overtime to redirect and reframe this discussion. LOL

    With Cohen pleading guilty and ready to sing, Trump is running out of time. Manafort has another trial coming and prosecutors had evidence withheld in the trial finding Manafort guilty because public exposure of that evidence would endanger ongoing investigations. This is all coming to Trump in due time. And Trump knows he (or a fall guy) needs to do something to stop what Mueller and the intelligence agencies know becoming public and the "spell" wears off the Trump/FoxNews crowd.

    Anyway, props to Cohen for deciding that since Trump threw him under the bus, Cohen would reach out and pull Trump under it with him.
     
  5. Svpernaut

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    It doesn't matter, the two-thirds majority it would take to impeach him won't happen. It is politicking and grandstanding to waste people's time even thinking about it at this point.
     
  6. Svpernaut

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    It must be a special world you're living in where everything is puppy dogs and candy canes. I choose to live in the real world. If you think anything will come out of this without a smoking gun, you're drinking some really strong DNC Kool Aid.

    And how is me saying that Trump is a terrible person reframing anything? We can agree he is terrible, and disagree on what to do about it. That isn't reframing anything.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    It's not politicking, where is the indication that Mueller is wrapping up? Your GOP's Benghazi was politicking that produced nothing.

    2/3's majority to impeach isn't impossible. We have no idea what will be uncovered.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Folks on this board just talked about how Democrats didn't know how to vote, and that they didn't nominate a liberal candidate that could beat Trump. That's accepting the blame pretty blatantly.

    It is strange for you to talk about other accepting responsibility when you are trying to shift the responsibility away from the Trump supporters that voted for him and place it on liberals rather than those that voted for Trump.
     
  9. JeffB

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    Anybody wanna place wagers on which minority group Trump attacks to change the headlines? (not serious)

    Sadly, I'm expecting Trump to find a murder or disappearance or some crime committed by an illegal immigrant to rile up the base.
     
  10. Svpernaut

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    It has been two years, and there is public record of what has been uncovered. With that reasoning, we could also find out that JFK was assassinated by the CIA... or, you know... we could also be grasping at straws because we don't want to admit it.

    When I say Liberals and Democrats, I don't mean people on this board, I mean the politicians that represent them. No one from the DNC has admitted that Hillary's collusion with the DNC handed Trump the presidency. Plenty still live in denial of that fact, and will until the day they die. The Democrats that don't hold the DNC accountable, are just as culpable as the ones that voted for Trump.
     
  11. Svpernaut

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    Too late.
    Illegal Immigrant Charged With Murder in Case of Missing Iowa Student
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/illega...er-in-case-of-missing-iowa-student-1534894935
     
  12. JeffB

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    There is no public record of everything Mueller has uncovered, that's not how this works where Mueller has make investigation completely public. Why is 2 years of any significance?

    Right, admit there's a chance Trump could be impeached.
     
  14. Svpernaut

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    It doesn't take two years to find a smoking gun. If anything comes out of the Mueller investigation it will likely be conspiracy or collusion. But again, I personally don't see that happening, and more importantly I don't see the reward for even pursuing it being worth it.

    Fine, he's guilty.... what will you do now? His legal immunity would create so many hurdles that he ties up prosecution for years, long after he is out of the White House. Even an impeachment probably wouldn't lead anywhere, and he certainly isn't someone to admit defeat and leave like Nixon.

    The day he was sworn in, was the final day he really had to worry about ramifications of any wrongdoing. That's our fault, we let someone who is clearly corrupt, get into a position of power that basically makes him untouchable.

    Both parties are to blame. The GOP has to live with the damage he is causing being the face of their party, yet the DNC refuses to admit their wrongdoing and learn from it. So we're doomed to repeat the same mistake again.
     
  15. Deckard

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    The excuses, deflections, and pretended "outrage" by the same people over and over again in defense of trump and those that he surrounded himself with more than a bit tiresome. Where are the dozens and dozens of posts from the same people denouncing the assault on our democracy by the Russian government?
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    Republican strategist is enjoying today...

     
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    How do you know what Mueller has found and hasn't found? Are you employed by the FBI and hold a high level clearance? If so, maybe you shouldn't post such things on a basketball message board.

    But if you are just randomly speculating out of your ass, keep in mind that Mueller desires an open and shut full proof case due to the nature of the subject. How do you know that he hasn't found a "smoking gun" months ago and is just strengthening the case with every amount of gathered evidence that he can
    I'm speculating out of my ass also with that statement. No one knows, so stop pretending that there is some tome frame that is reasonable.
     
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  19. Svpernaut

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    Because if he had a smoking gun he'd use it. You're randomly speculating out of your ass too. We don't know what he has or what he will find. But what we do know is what can come out of it. NOTHING. Trump has immunity, and countless legal protections to fight any sort of evidence that comes up. Not to mention he has far too many cronies read to fall on the sword for him.

    I am not speculating when I say Trump isn't going to jail. You're speculating when you say that he may.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    So what you are essentially stating is that when he finds his "smoking gun" he will immediately end the investigation and not attempt to strengthen it?

    What makes you think investigations work this way?
     
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