Elite colleges using quotas for AA's and Hispanics

The collegiate system is the biggest scam in the country, and puts Wall Street to shame. They'll be fairly irrelevant in a generation or two. Technology will save the day.

 

In a free market of what impact of what the actual **** **** did I just read?

Embarrassing - please never ever ever mention Harvard or utter the name of any of the Highly Selectives again on this forum, or even while in line at a 7-11.

Except for Brown. Go ahead and mention Brown.

 

Its the POV of the schools

 

The evolution of world capitalism is just a race to the bottom. We don't live in the Middle Ages any longer.

 

No, the only question is if you do something to help minorities. If it helps white men, it's ok. Don't mix up the issues here, this is about the victimization of white men, not blacks who cry about racism all the time. Who is protecting white men from exploitation?

It's such a joke. No one wants to consider that maybe a student who had a disadvantaged background is going to bring something extra to a university than a rich kid who has every opportunity afforded to them.

 

Nah. If you go to a good school it opens a bunch of doors.

 

I am not assuming, just stating facts

 

Do you know what makes a good school? Hint: Its not just the faculty.

A lot of people commenting dont seem to understand the complexity of college admissions and challenge of building the right environment. A pure merit based admission system would result in a worse environment.

 

Why?

 

There are a few reasons for AA existing.

1. To repay minorities that have been treated unequally for centuries. Life is a race, white people cheated to get ahead at the beginning of the race, it's only fair that the playing field gets evened.
2. To provide a more diverse education experience, with people from different backgrounds. College is not only about academics, the social experience is just as important. Being with a unique cast of people from all different walks of life is invaluable. Without AA, the colleges deem that they would not be able to provide its students with a diverse enough collegiate experience.
3. Systemic racism still exists. Black kids have to deal with worse schools, more dangerous neighborhoods, and a million of other things that come with being black in America. These universities recognize that and don't want to punish those kids. They realize that a black kid growing up in inner city Baltimore that manages to get a 3.6 GPA and decent test scores is much more impressive than a white kid from the middle class suburbs doing the same thing or slightly better.

 

Colonialism, ethnic cleansing, murder, kidnapping, and slavery is just being smarter and more organized. Of course.

 

Senator your points are all wrong.

1. You make it seem like slavery, colonialism, segregation etc. were "being smarter and more organized". That's absurd, but also doesn't excuse that those were evil things. This tells me that you are a terrible person irl, so I am glad that I don't have to interact with you outside of this forum. Good thing decent people realized that those were wrong and are trying to make up for it.
2. Please show me proof that asian kids, on average, have as difficult a childhood circumstances as black kids in America. It's not just about being dirt poor, it's about not having a stable family life, seeing violence at a very young age which f***s up your mind, and all the other sh*t that happens. I guarantee that if you were adopted at birth and put into a broken family, you would not be as successful as you are today, and if you did become as successful, you would have worked much harder to get to that point. Colleges want to reward the level of adversity overcome.

 

Meh, understand my bias, but:
1. Statistically, the investment in higher ed is still shown to be a very good investment in realized lifetime earnings. that's averaged across all schools, even the shitty ones, and all majors, even the ostensibly abstract ones.
2. It may be, you could argue, that our society overvalues a degree. Maybe so, but it pays off for now.
3. The student debt is a huge issue and university inefficiencies are a huge issue and the crushing bureaucracy hurting innovation is a huge issue and outdated tenure privileges are a huge issue and the influence of "education research" on teaching practices is another nasty issue. All that is MHO from working inside the contraption.

 

Said all I have to say on this issue...so....