NFL will fine players and personnel who don't stand for national anthem

You should realize they can protest without disrespecting the country.

 

Then maybe once you explain to them they will have the awareness to say “but can’t they protest without disrespecting the country, flag and the people who died for their right to protest?”

 

1. I find it unnecessary but the individual who recommended kneeling to Kapernick was a Navy Seal.

2. You should teach your children to not be so easily irked by people breaking symbolic "patriotism" gestures as it is a lowest common denominator form of Patriotism and is a waste of energy.

3. The claim of "disrespect" is a disingenuous claim as the vast majority of people who are "offended" magically also disagree with the entire premise of the protest regardless of the method of protest. If these athletes found an isolated corner outside the gate to express their concern for the state of law enforcement in many parts of the nation, those same people would easily move goal posts to "disrespect towards law enforcement is immoral and I'm offended, shut up and play football".

Again, the very same people who couldn't give two ***** about what occured before the tip off of a game magically now are so offended. Marines I know who ran straight towards the nearest door whenever Colors started playing on base so they could avoid standing at attention for one minute holding a salute are somehow magically offended that a protest that has nothing to do with veterans offends their sensibilities... I guess it also is a coincidence that many of them joined law enforcement after their enlistment.

 

I’m assuming you’re an adult, so I feel bad having to break this down for you.

If anyone agrees with Trump on anything that doesn’t make that person a Trump supporter and or voted for him. They could despise him but agree with that 1 position. Trump is bound to get something right.

You running around with a literal Trump card (pardon the pun) that you think you can throw down to win every argument makes you look biased and too afraid of what your herd thinks.

Man up and think for yourself.

 

I think part of the reason the guy who started that BS decided to intentionally disrespect the country, and why he told the media that was exactly what he was doing was so that his protest wouldn't be ignored. He was really upset about the rightful shooting of a black criminal armed with a stolen gun who was shot by a black police officer and he wanted people to notice him....and at first they didn't. That's why he felt like he had to take the "protest" to the middle of the field and that he had to tell the media that he was intending to show disrespect to the country so that the story would take off.

 

I believe your priorities are irrationally placed.

You are more irked by an athlete kneeling over a symbolic gesture vs the head of the executive branch of the world's most powerful government who has arguably the most powerful bully pulpit on the planet who also is the executive head of a government that legally cannot supress non violent speech of citizens taking advantage of said bully pulpit to yell at private businesses whom to fire based on protests he disagrees with.

The latter is tangibly more worrisome to a rational Anerican citizen while the former is just jingoist red meat .

Your priorities are as close to objectively irrational and stupid as can be.

 

You’re not getting the point, the point is by protesting this way in front of a media with an agenda that push this crap to millions of viewers it normalizes disrespect for the country by kids and adults much like the fakes news has normalized Trump Derangement and has brainwashed the left.

 

The point of a protest is to do as much mass exposure as possible. I actually find it inneffective because the vast majoirty of Americans who watch the NFL are taking a **** break or scrummaging through the fridge during the ever so holy time that is the NFL pregame ritual.

 

Before throwing around words like jingoist realize most people are just saying they won't be watching or attending anymore.

On top of concussions, catch/nocatch, teams moving with no loyalty, domestic abuse etc the NFL has been swirling the toilet bowl for a while. Someone saying they plan to find something better to do on a Sunday because idiots protesting something they love isn't illogical or wrong. It's a consumer choice they have made.

 

Okay... Just don't lie and say you are so offended over a pregame ritual you never bothered to watch in the first place because you are so offended that a black person says mean things about law enforcement.

I don't care about NFL rating. I just feel like calling out people who hide behind "the troops" to shut down speech they disagree with.

 

Show me an objective study that shows expression of symbolic patriotism and adherence to it coorelates to lower crime rates, better educated indivuduals and people contributing more to our GDP .

 

Exactly, the protesting for a lot of fans was the final straw.

 

Yes and those fans are stupid. Not because they decided to not watch the NFL anymore but because they let their sensibilities be irked over a pregame ritiual they didn't care for at all until a black man decided that law enforcement isn't infallible.

It's disengenous. It's disengenous that a protest that has nothing to say about "he troops" to magically make it an attack on the troops.

 

I think Trump shouldn’t have commented just like Obama should have kept his comments about law enforcement being in error to himself when his loud mouth professor friend was rightfully arrested. The latter and Trayvon Martin case comments lent support to a runaway cause that resulted in policemen being murdered.

 

I think Obama commenting on errors of law enforcement is within the purview of the head executive of our government vs a president disagreeing with the speech of a private citizen and telling a drive business that the private citizen should be fired.

But you should admit you are more irked about something that is tangibly less concerning than the head of the executive branch abusing his bully pulpit.

 

Weird. I got a notification you had quoted me here when it was mick fry you quoted. Never had that before. Anyways, carry on!

 

Lol, you can take it from here.

 

That was a real classy move by the cop to accept an invitation to the white house after Obama said he "acted stupidly".

 

I was quoting you earlier but didn't bother to continue and forgot to delete the quote when I typed on my phone. I then proceed to delete the quote but it probably already notified you. Sorry for the confusion.

But it was a stupid action and the response to him calling an individual cop's actions "stupid" exemplified the mentality of a large section of White America when they attributed criticism of a law enforcement officer as "race baiting" and an attack on white people which ironically exemplified how a large portion of white America believes law enforcement subconsciously is supposed to protect white America and is inherently part of White American culture.

 

I think you just made all that up. Obama admits he didn't know much about the situation, he was using a huge platform to defend his friend, and he wrongly said the cop "acted stupidly" then called the cop racist.

It was a low point gaff the cop helped him out of.