CP3/Melton/MCW Harden/Gordon/Waiters Tucker/Ennis/Green Melo/Johnson Capela/Hartenstein/Nene/Zhou Monster depth
Thank you for that basic response. He wasn't a good fit here but he could be somewhere else. As well are we just going to ignore that he was a starter on a 55 win playoff team just the year before.
That's all right, Mr. Windhorsts' morse code is so rusty, he could be sending us dimensions on Playmate of the Month.
N Not only that, he was injured going into the playoffs. Judging Ryno is much like judging Moute after the playoffs. They were both toast. (That said, I am so pumped to wake up one morning and see James F'ing Johnson on the Rockets)
2b) 3 team (MIA, HOU, MEM) MIA: Ryan Anderson (HOU) + Andrew Harrison (MEM) + 2019 HOU 1st (unprotected) + rights to Vince Edwards (HOU) MEM: Dion Waiters (MIA) + Ryan McGruder (MIA) [TPE] + 2020 HOU 2nd + rights to Sergio Llull (HOU) HOU: James Johnson (MIA) + JaMychal Green (MEM) This one would be great trade. Or just Mia and hou trade and see how waiters fits in on our offense. Then if he doesn’t fit that well or we see someone who fits better against gsw. Like chandler Tyson. It would be a good back up for Nene and or Capela against different match ups. Plus he is tough too then maybe by the trade deadline Ariza is bought and we get him back hehe Imagine pj, Johnson, Tyson and Ariza plus cp3. Our team would be so tough
Anderson is definitely a good player with value but his stock is just low at the moment. Which why I find it hard to believe he will be traded before the deadline.
Lmao you're crazy. That slow white b*stard did not shoot better than Harden or Paul, especially when you factor in the difficulty of their attempts.
you may be right but i was speaking strictly percentagewise still its not a small thing to have the best % on 3pt on 65 win team, and all that on a pretty high volume its not like he was shooting one 3pt a game
If the Rockets did this deal, Waiters would likely be a candidate to move to a 3rd team at some point. I threw out a suggestion to move him to Sacramento for Iman Shumpert (expiring) because the Kings were looking for help on the wing. Waiters contract is probably viewed as a negative around the league. Especially coming off surgery. But people like scoring wings so a team might take a flyer. The key is getting James Johnson for Ryan Anderson. A big upgrade. If Morey could THEN flip Waiters for something else of value, that would be a huge bonus.
People complaining about Waites & Johnson's contracts. Yeah, they aren't great and that is WHY they are available. And you aren't going to trade Ryan Anderson garbage and get back premium assets. Not sure what you are expecting. It is junk for junk. Just have to find a team that has more use for your junk and vice versa. Rockets are not in the "cap space game" anymore. Not until the end of Harden/CP. So "contract length" isn't an issue. So they are effectively "splitting" Anderson's contract into two. BTW, as bad as those contracts might look, hold onto your butts to see how contracts will look in 2019 and 2020 FA. They will be big and will end up uglier than the Waiters/Johnson ones. That is another reason why Morey wants to EXTEND Eric Gordon on HIS terms. Have to look at this in the macro.
That's not a bad suggestion, tbh. Not sure how the Bucks feel about Waiters. I had moving Waiters for Shumpert. Moving Waiters for Snell would be terrific.
I'm sure Waiters could be re-routed to another team that needs scoring for a defensive minded player. Are there any websites that do scouting reports on current NBA players? Hoopshype used to do a small write-up (good defender, terrible 3 point shooter, etc...), but I can't even find anything like that now...
This might seem and be not that major, but part of the reason @heypartner was having extended dialogue in the Onuaku trade thread was because of the underlying implication that it clearly isn't an "money isn't an issue at all" scenario with this team and owner. [**Not that it is really with any team - we STILL get articles about the Warriors and how/if they can keep it together despite the fact they have everything going for them economically in terms of revenue generation**]. Remember, that trade was effectively done to save a couple million in total payroll (including luxury tax) at the expense of lessening future assets. Wasn't a big or loss, but a loss to DM's "asset chest" nonetheless. I don't think you're implying this, but clearly DM can't just look at players irrespective of overall contract $$ amount and lengths, regardless of whether those contracts end before CP3's/Harden's.
Clearly "amount per year" as it relates to the LT is an issue. But "number of years" might not be if the "amount per year" is suitable. Also, having contracts with multiple years allows the team to keep kicking the can down the road on trades to find the right role players. Having players fall off the cap ends up being wasted assets since the team won't be able to replace them with cap space since they won't have it. Just the T-MLE. Tilman clearly has a threshold on LT tolerance. Morey knows it and will work his trades around it.
Would you find it more palatable if he was a slow black/brown b*stard? Or would you still Lmao?Inquiring minds want to know?? ....... ....... ..,,,,.
Solid work, my general thoughts. Ryan to Sacramento I know its a common thought that Sac. would take Anderson. I really don't see it. They already have WCS, Giles, Bagley, Bjelica, Labissiere, Koufas, Randolph, Deyonta Davis AND Justin Jackson spent 1/3 of his minutes at PF last season (though can't imagine that would happen again). Granted, you did suggest sending out Randolph and potentially Koufas, but its still an overloaded position with young guys they want/need to get reps. The Bjelica signing was the big one. Sure, he's Anderson light (normal Ryan), but he shot 41% on threes last year (needs to get his volume UP) and is will only be paid $6.5 million. Never say never, because Ryan IS from the area and he COULD be more valuable next offseason as a huge expiring... but it just doesn't make a lot of sense on paper to me. Ryan to Memphis I'm relative high on JaMychal Green. I think he's an expiring, so maybe the Grizz don't expect to resign him and want some value back (after getting NOTHING for Tyreke Evans - horrible GM'ing.) Now, maybe they just see value in Anderson as a stretch the floor PF as opposed to Green who is more of that classic Grizzlies defensive mindset. But I don't see that. They are who they are, and oh by the way JJ Jr. is the guy they're REALLY high on - granted a rookie - who they'll want to get those Anderson minutes. Hard to see them paying both Chandler Parsons and Ryan Anderson $20 million each to be meh at best. Miami trades I didn't do the math on all of them, but do some of those Orlando trades with Miami save them money? I guess a tad and they are shorter length deals?? The chicago one... I mean that's a lot of crappy centers on a team that already has a chemistry issue with their ok highly paid center. I think salary savings is super important to them, but I don't think they are punting the season... otherwise they could really start moving assets (Dragic, Winslow, etc.) attached to contracts to get value and due a rebuild
True, but this is always a dance as well. You are inevitable going to run into Ariza situations. Too important to trade. But potential to lose in the offseason. The idea with adding a Waiters or Johnson or whomever should be ultimately trying to find players that are good enough to at least fall in the above category. If you're constantly kicking the can its likely a sign they still haven't reached the mountain top. As is, from the contract value perspective, keeping Anderson might make the most sense anyway. Maybe he gets back to a point where he is at least very close to his form before this year, and then he has potential value as both a legit stretch 4 and a large expiring contract. As CLEARLY overpaid as he is, until he became unplayable in the second half of last year - for injury or otherwise - this is a guy who TRULY was one of the best stretch bigs there is. There are VERY few PFs in the NBA that can hit high 30s plus on 5+ 3PA a game.
