[Long-winded Rant] South Africa: An Omen For America?

China is investing in Africa for the sole purpose of limiting the influence of the USA and for their natural resources.

The USA certainly has a history of destruction, particularly in South America and the Middle East.

However China's investment in Africa isn't really going to improve the situation.

 

Interesting that you would jump to that conclusion. Rather that "condoning" or "excusing", what I am doing is explaining WHY it is that way. At no point did I say that it was right or justified. You have a real knack for reading/seeing what you want to see. Further, the history also explains why it is going to be extremely difficult to change the situation and why there is very little political/international initiative to change the power structure in South Africa.

At this point the West has basically declared South Africa a "no go zone" and it would behoove everyone white that has the means to leave, to go ahead and leave. The majority of people are not aware of the level of opulence South Africa had 30-40 years ago for the white ruling class compared to now. It is not a safe place for anyone (black on black crime is rampant and tribe on tribe crime as well) but especially for those that have wealthy in Africa and are now the minority (whites).

 

Okay fine but at no point did you way it was wrong either so explain that.

 

The same reason I didn't say it was wrong for Roberto Osuna to hit his girlfriend.... it is kind of obvious and I believe understood by everyone.

Show many a single post were someone said the racism was acceptable? Understanding why something is the way it is, isn't the same as saying that it is okay.

 

A legit Afrikaner post.

 

Lol, not sure how you took that from my post...but your posts are pretty revealing which is disappointing.

I mean, as someone else mentioned, this whole thread (I mean most of your posts) could have been pulled out of Stormfront...

 

OP's point is it's NOT obvious and your proving him right.

 

Well, agree to disagree.

Everything I've read from it, even from people closer to the situation, seem to say the exact opposite. Chinese businesses are benefitting from it and African nations are benefitting from it as well. Infrastructure is being built, rapidly, and poor nations are giving people jobs.

I think all China is doing is realizing that Africa has a ton of people in it which means there is a lot of money to be made there. Yeah, America is losing influence in Africa as a result but I don't think China is doing this to just get at America. I think they are doing it because it helps their economy and they are realizing the potential future benefits.

But really, only the future knows the truth. I think as long as China sees itself as an investor and economic partner, then not much could go wrong. As long as they mostly stay out of politics and conflict and not make the mistakes US has made when doing that then I just don't see how it will hurt African nations at all.

 

Object lesson for America, but not in the way OP thinks. File this under "you reap what you sow". Spend 200 years treating people like animals and savages, don't be surprised when they respond to you in kind.

 

Apartheid ended in the 90"s, so if your argument is people alive now "only" endured 50 years of savagery at most, not sure that is a winner for you.

But I met a guy who still keeps the civil war and hatred of the North alive because he grew up listening to stories from his grandfather.

People are shaped by their education. Education is shaped by the people who came before, in ways both intentional and unintended.

The world would be a much better place if the past died when the people who lived it did. But the world doesn't work that way.

 

Your talking points are the exact same ones used by stormfront users and current day white nationalists, congrats.

I made complete sense in my post, I asked why YOU thought whites were more wealthy and you returned with "Ummm, so you are excusing revenge and land reform" Like...wtf...I didn't even mention it once in my post...

Yeah....you need to go brush up on your basic South African history...Apartheid ended in the 90s.

This is what happens when you get your 'facts' from alt-right WNs, you say things like the above and you become historically illiterate.

 

The beauty of this argument is after X years, no one should care about the land confiscation that you are complaining about now.

I mean this story is so July 26th 2018.

 

Some historical literacy...

 

Lol, ah yes, the colonists' position of "Well, you have no papers saying this land is yours. It's ours now. Thanks."

And now the "They are better off thanks to Europeans" narrative. You're pulling out all the Stormfront hits today!

You should do a bit of research, I'm certainly not going to do it for you... you'd find that there was a civilization there before Europeans arrived. We have no idea how things would have turned out had they not. There was a lot of activity there in South Africa between several nations around that time, competing for trade and stealing ideas from each other. I think if left to their own devices things would have turned out differently because I think African people are just as capable as building nations as any other people, I doubt you believe the same. Either way, we'll never know, because as history shows Europeans decided to muddle in all of their affairs, pick and choose winners and losers, and as history shows this never ends well for the developing nation.

No, my point is that the whites in South Africa are richer because they benefitted from decades of oppression.

People are a resource and when you get to pay that resource for cheap labor all while denying them basic human rights you tend to get wealthy.

 

But did they have a flag?