Trump to impose tariff on steel and aluminium, geaux Trump!

There is no "internal" with the EU dealing with nation states. Internal is an EU civil servant disagreeing with an EU sitting council. It isn't a deflection. I've provided examples provide counters.

What do you feel you have brought to the discussion outside of obviously not understanding what the EU is and saying NO to everything I opine? Is that a valid position to hold without examples?

Provide evidence of the EU not delaying much longer than other entities on trade arrangements. Discussions typically work in a framework of arguing an example with a counter. Not just denying examples given as not quite to your standards and asking for more. you would have a great opening if you had information on your side here.

The reasoning is the mechanism BTW. What is your conspiracy theory exactly?

 

Domestic/internal as it is a political and economic union. I would have assumed it would have been clear I was referring to the members states, not members of the varying regulatory bodies.

Because you made the claim of the EU only responding to threats to which you used examples of the dealings of member states as proof of why the US needed to enact tariffs on the EU.

Again Trump justified these tariffs with national security procedurals.

Don't put the burden of proof on me when you made the initial claim. You research that and settle it or just say you were mistaken and move on. Don't call it a discussion since keeping you on task has been like pulling teeth. Changing tactics won't work.

 

I made claim and gave clear recent examples. You said not good enough because the EU dealing with Greece was for some reason not qualifying. It's a nonsensical objection. Sorry. Do better. That a pathetic objection.

 

You gave clear examples of the workings of domestic issues within the EU, we are talking about international trade between the US and EU where national security was used as justification for tariffs. Try again. How about you "Provide evidence of the EU not delaying much longer than other entities on trade arrangements," to back up YOUR CLAIM.

It's not my fault your examples aren't relevant. Just say you were wrong and move on or provide the evidence you posed.

 

EU FTA with canada 7 years, USA FTA with OZ 11 months negotiations.

I await your lack of a counter argument and vapid criticism to the facts I used to form my opinion you disagree with all the while providing no facts to back up your opinion lol.

 

... meanwhile, I thought the idea was to keep U.S. companies FROM moving away?

 

I'm just glad you took your own advice and moved from domestic to international.....

EU-Japan: Council adopts decision to sign trade agreement

E.U. Courts New Partners With Japan Trade Deal

EU- Japan- almost 5 years from start to ink drying on an agreement between 2 of the top 10 economies. And it was 11 months between the US and a smaller economy like Australia, which is almost 5 times as small as Japan?

Still not seeing how the EU only responds to threats.

 

5 years is fast for you? LMAO

 

LMAO. I mean you did post the length between signing Free Trade Agreements..... and I responded with a FTA......

Again.... your original claim was that the EU only responds to threats..... where is the proof? Want to try again?

 

Bruh, you think Greece negotiating with Brussels is a domestic affair. You expect to be taken seriously with that trash?

 

You clearly won this argument. The basis that only threats work is pretty nutty and fit in nicely with looney trump.

 

China’s plan backfiring.

 

it certainly lessens the economic pain being felt by the US soy farmers; the question is “by how much?”

Insofar as soy consumption / usage in the EU, according to https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?commodity=soybean-oil&graph=domestic-consumption, none of the EU countries consume as much soy as Haiti, who consumes ~ 0.001% as much as China




ps, this development only underscores the fact how ill-conceived / prepared the the tariffs implemented.

instead of working w allies to apply economic pressure on China,
Traitor Trump opted to slap tariffs on the EU allies under the false claim of national security​

 

Below is the opinion by an American conservative political pundit and journalist, and the Senior editor for National Review magazine, a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a columnist for Bloomberg View, and a contributing editor to the domestic policy journal National Affairs.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archi...sy-to-claim-victory-in-not-so-easy-to-win.php

TRADE WARS: EASY TO CLAIM VICTORY IN, NOT SO EASY TO WIN

Trump episodically claims that he wants zero trade barriers all around, and it’s a good thing that we’re going to have talks with the EU about liberalization. But we didn’t need to place tariffs on steel and aluminum, in the process inflicting damage on the many American companies that use steel and aluminum in making their own products, to get Europe to the table.​

Negotiations with Europe to bring trade barriers down were further along before Trump took office than they are now. Trump is the one who froze those negotiations for a Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, in order to launch his trade war.

Many other trade agreements have been concluded over the last few years without any need for self-destructive tariffs. The EU and Japan just made a deal. Neither had to restrict imports from the other first.

European soybean imports from the U.S. were likely to increase naturally. China is buying fewer soybeans from the U.S. as part of the fallout from our trade war with it. That means it will buy more soybeans from Brazil, and so Europe will have to buy more from us.

All the EU is saying about gas is that it will import more from America as it builds its capacity to do so. That’s something that was going to happen anyway, with or without any agreement with Trump — and with or without his tariffs and tariff threats.

 

Booya!

 

Trump is losing the trade war, according to his favorite measure

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-trade-war-deficit-losing-2018-8

 

if only the Red Rocket understands economics,

he'd have known that this is one of the "tells" by Trump that the trade war is not going the way he had wanted

other "tells" that he is blinking

• lashing out at the Fed for raising interest
• conceding to the wishes of the Chines firm ZTE
• bailing out the Soy farmers w $12 Billion of welfare

 

... trade wars are good and easy to win...

 

I don't see where these countries are taking advantage of the US?

 

All Hail King Trump. Champion of racist morons, colluder of Russia, imposer of Tariffs, grower of debt, and Killer of industry.