That wouldn't cut the Wizards luxury tax at all for this season, right now they are 10 million over the lux tax line which is a lot for the Wizards. They also wouldn't be receiving a rotation worthy SF to replace Porter which would be pretty devastating for their on-court production.
I'm not sure they would, but if there's one thing to count on, it's the Wizards being cheap. Oubre is improving and will be a RFA next season, Kieff will be a FA, Walls mega deal is kicking in next season (20 mill jump in his salary), they have to do something or they will be paying a ridiculous tax like the Thunder.
Cap implications make sense. Regarding Wizards, I think the idea would be to open up the SF spot for Oubre and they signed Jeff Green. I mean, they'd only be moving Green in the first place for cap reasons, so sure if they got a SF back, that could work, too... but to me anything in the forward area works. Along those lines... Marcus Morris didn't really play SF last year. 80% of his minutes were at PF, with the rest at SF. Meanwhile, Boston doesn't have an obvious PF. Tatum played some minutes there, but if I'm Boston, I really don't want Tatum playing a lot of SF... even though that's increasingly the way to NBA seems to be going. But I don't want Hawyard playing PF either, and Jaylen Brown doesn't really play any PF. If I'm looking at the roster, I see Kyrie and Rozier as PGs, Smart as SG, Brown as SG/SF, Hayward as SF, and Tatum as SF/PF, Morris as PF, Horford as C/PF, Baynes as C. So they have both a purely that position player(s) and versatile players for every position... EXCEPT if they moved Morris, they'd not have that guy that was more of the pure PF. But certainly if they think they can fill ALL of their PF minutes with Tatum and Horford, then Morris is expendable. I know they'd like to get a little further down on salary, but would Ainge really move him just as a salary dump?
Well the idea in a multi-team trade would be the Wizards get two things; (i) salary cap relief now and in the future, and (ii) some assets back. NOt Ryan Anderson. As has been noted, beginning next year, the Wizards will be looking at salaries of: - John Wall = $37 million (rising to $43 million) - Bradley Beal = $27 million - Otto Porter = $27 million That's $91 million for those three guys. For a team with a limited ceiling. The obvious first comment would be ok, they should then trade Porter for "real value". Except who is going to want that contract?
Well firstly, I'd say in my little trade proposal the Celtics were receiving a Kings 2nd which along with cap space would be great value for Marcus IMO. 2nd, I do think they plan on dumping him. They have 16 roster spots taken if they sign their 1st rd pick in Robert Williams. It's not that Hayward or Tatum are natural PF's, it's just necessary that they play PF in order to get minutes because of the packed forward AND guard rotations. Irving / Rozier - Rozier will have to play SG minutes next to Irving due to his improvement, no way Rozier only plays 14 minutes a game. Brown / Smart + (Rozier) - Again, Brown will have to slide down to make minutes available to Smart and Rozier. Hayward / Tatum + (Brown) - I don't even have to describe this one At this point in the rotation, it's clear that one of Hayward or Tatum has to play over 20 mpg at PF in order for Irving/Rozier/Smart/Brown/Hayward/Tatum to all get adequate minutes. Add Horford, Baynes, Thiess and Ojeleye in the frontcourt and it's clear Morris is extremely expendable, if not a necessity to move in order to keep everybody content with their roles. Considering Morris makes 5.4 million, and the Celtics are 5.4 million over the lux tax line, it makes too much sense for them not to move him for a 2nd and cap space.
Next season there will be a bunch of teams with cap room. Not everyone will get a top flight star. So then there will be teams willing to take Porter back into cap space for 1st round pick(s). Sort of like how the Mavs took on Harrison Barnes with GSW needed to do a dump. I could see Minny also hoping some out of luck team will be willing to take Wiggins into their cap space. I don't think the Wizards are going to move Porter this year.
Fair enough. Can't argue with sound logic. They do have a SF logjam... and the Kings 2nd would certainly be as good a 2nd as they could potentially get. Just always figure Ainge might find a way to get more. Like a late 1st, or future first that turns into a lotto pick, lol
Sorry if I misunderstood then. I took what you said to mean if melo gets abused on the defensive end that he can turn around and abuse Curry on the offensive end creating a be zero result. I think Melo adds a dimension but until we make a significant upgrade for defense at the 3 I don’t think Melo is enough to put us back in contention with GS.
One year or not it’s still true he couldn’t find a fit. For you to imply that it’s untrue reflects who has the agenda here. True or not, the only reason you post here is to advocate (or educate to be generous) for Melo. Which I’m actually fine with but I’d think twice before implying others to have an agenda.
Barnes was signed as a free agent. DAL took on Bogut in that trade. Taking on Bogut's $13 MM (esp. coming off of a 70 game season for a 73-win team) is much different than taking on Porter's $27 MM. What teams do you see taking on Porter's whole deal AND giving Washington additional compensation?
If you ignore the fact that neither the Kings nor the Wizards would have any interest in this deal, yes, it works well.
This offseason has featured some of the most laughable Clutchfans proposed trades I've ever seen And some of them weren't even from basketballholic!
My agenda is the truth. You're implying him having trouble fitting in is a career thing when reality is it was one year with a very difficult player to play next to especially if you need the ball. I post here because I like some of you(not you) and the discussions are fun. See unlike you, I don't care enough to let it bother me. You need validation, I don't. If tearing down Melo makes you happy then go ahead, I won't stop you. Enjoy.
They're like - what if we attach the licensing + rights to wear our blue uniforms, Matt Maloney's expiring contract, and Sergio Lull to Ryan Anderson for Khris Middleton?
I think the Wizards have seen good things from Troy Brown this summer and can envision an Oubre / Green / Brown rotation at SF. But they do probably want to cut their tax bill because I believe they are headed for repeater tax I could see something like: Wizards: Gordon (HOU) + Randolph (SAC) + Houston 2021 1st (top 15 protected) + rights to Llull (HOU) + rights to Edwards (HOU) Wiz shave almost $17M from payroll - dropping them well below tax line. Saves a TON of $$$$. Also pick up a battle tested forward (Randolph) and a 3rd guard (Gordon) who is one of best 6th men in NBA for LEastern Conference playoffs Kings: Anderson (HOU) + Onuaku (HOU) Houston 2019 1st (unprotected) + Houston 2020 2nd + Houston 2022 2nd + rights to Gentille (HOU) + $3M in cash considerations (HOU) Anderson. Sac-town. Etc. Rockets: OPJ (WSH) + Rivers (WSH) + Satoransky (WSH) OPJ = legit. Rivers can be exchanged later for a player looking to play for a contender at the deadline (Carroll? Marvin Williams? James Johnson? Courtney Lee? Tobias Harris? Trev? Harkless? ). Satoransky is Gordon replacement. (Check his stuff on Basketball Reference & 82games). I could also envision a trade where Satoransky is not included, but he is just the type of gem that Morey likes to pluck from other teams. Anyway... just a thought about making it work. That being said, OPJ is a fellow Hoya and I have to think Wiz want to keep him because (1) local-ish & (2) GOOD player.
Haha! Good point.... So Rivers is flipped immediately instead of a trade deadline. (DeMarre Carroll? Courtney Lee?). You could also include Mahinmi instead of Rivers & Satoransky - but then Wiz are thin up-front.
Otto Porter being heavily discussed??? I am loving it. Loving. It. Speak it into existence my OPM brothers!
