He only got 2 post ups per game last year, well 1.9 and made .8 So basically half if you round up but again the Thunder offense wasn't exactly designed to exploit mismatches in that way so its tough taking certain numbers like that and analyzing them.
Again i like melo on here but is that statement untrue? If anyone has an agenda here wouldn’t it be the guy that’s only here to preach the melo gospel?
Still with the caveat that OKC was a "mess" last year, Melo was horrible down the stretch offensively. He shot 20.6% from three in "clutch" situations according the nba.com and 28.9% overall (so worse on twos!?!). He was also bad the prior year and the year before that. He was solid in 2014-2015. I know no one needed me back in this thread, since I'm a broker record, but in the everyone reverts to their average math that is true in sports, Melo's average is still as an inefficient offense player. On the whole, you'd much rather have CP3 and Harden controlling the offense down the stretch and better spot up shooters and defenders around them. Again, the reason for having Melo is in the "can he revert to his former self" for one quarter, game, half, clutch down the stretch period? One would hope it doesn't involve continuing to out him out there in those situations to see, but rather smart rotations by MDA, especially when it comes to playoff, matchup basketball.
Melo was deadly off screens last year 1.26ppp 47% FG 61.4% EFG 90th percentile Thunder just didn't utilize it enough for him but PG for example was 1.09 42% FG 54.4% EFG 71st percentile He got 7 times as many shots off screens than Melo
Melo's numbers were better early in the year when he was featured more. Donovan wanted him to strictly be a floor spacer and if the ball reversed to the weak side then he'd take advantage of that but it didn't happen as much. I dont think anyone can dispute he shot poorly because he did but again as I pointed out the Thunder offense wasn't designed for guys outside of Russ, PG and Adams(pick n roll) If you watch the Thunder and come away saying they utilized their talent to the best of their abilities then you don't know what you're watching.(Not you but anyone in general)
He had trouble fitting into a role in OKC, not New York, not Denver, not Team USA. If you want to take one year as "gospel" then enjoy, I won't dispute it.
NBA.com postup stats says he got 2.5 post up possession per game. The 1.9 is FGA. It's not clear, but the rest would be passes or turnovers (it says 11% turnover frequency, which I guess means about 1/10 on post ups its a turnvoer??). And yes he made 0.8 of his 1.9 FGA. I suspect you saw this info from nba.com, so it is curious you don't note the 0.84 points per possession, which is basically horrible... post ups were also 14%+ of his frequency, which is way too much for someone that was so bad. EDIT: 2 years ago he scored 0.92 PPP on postups. Still... pretty bad. The Suns I believe were the least efficient offensive team last year, scoring 1.003 points per possession as a point of reference.
I admit to not watching every possession of every Thunder game. I also admit to not liking billy Donovan as an NBA coach with the Thunder. I also admit to not liking Westbrook as a floor general. I am equally concerned about the stats for the last 5 years as just last year.
Holic is as relentless as he is predictable. If we win a chip this year, his big off-season suggestion will be to unload Capela for Uthoff and expiring contracts "to clear up much-needed cap space."
I am in agreement with you that at this point, it's hard to see zero net effect between the 2 players. But then again, a lot of people (including Rockets fans) have been incorrect with their assessments of our team dynamics prior to season opening. Only way we'll know is when we start playing.
Some of these are just routine passes but others are highly skilled looks that created really good shots for his teammates.
Last 4 of 5 years have been fine. The significant outlier is last year. Those other years were as the number one option, in a "triangle" offense I put quotes around triangle because the Knicks sucked at running it lol
Anyway this thread is about trades, I think we've beat this Melo/OKC thing into the ground at this point. I'm done talking about it in this context.
If we're looking at the best fits on the court and no necessarily at the contracts, i think Batum, Bazemore, Johnson, Porter are the names that makes more sense. If we're also giving importance to the contract well, MKG, Warren, Harkless might be in play. Personally, i don't think we're going after expirings, and i really don't like those guys on the second group, i'm only a bit intrigued by Warren but eh...i think the guys in the first group are way better fits and players in general.
So amateurish. You're so behind. We're marching towards the trade deadline now. With Capela's contract in the books, Morey realizes the importance of getting Anderson out of here so we don't wind up with both Anderson and Capela unplayable against the Warriors. Historically....The odds are very high that after players sign long term guaranteed contracts that they coast in their first year of that new contract and either aren't as good as the previous season Or they simply plateau. LOOK UP what I'm telling you here. And wake up! It's a real risk. And Morey knows it. That's why he's looking under every rock and leaving no stone unturned in his quest to move Anderson this summer now that Capela is signed and wasn't traded. We need to hope we get Anderson moved for at least somewhat useful players that would at least have neutral trade value down at the deadline. Do wet can get to the deadline with EGo, Capela, all our picks, a few youngsters, and other salary filler to make a deal for another great piece to beat the Warriors with
They still weren't good. Only 1 year in the last 5 at better than 33% from three down the stretch in clutch games. Most years the overall FG% (so factoring in twos as well) also sucked. Last year is caveated because of the coach, offense, leadership, whatever... but the guy did miss a bunch of open looks... down the stretch or otherwise.
