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Carmelo: "I'm not going to (come off the bench) in a situation where I still know my capabilities"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jacoby, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. H-Town Melo

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    You do not have the right to that claim bro I'm sorry, I was there you weren't.
     
  2. MystikArkitect

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    Self awareness. Lacking.
     
  3. H-Town Melo

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    I know less about this team than almost all of you. Can I get a breakdown of your offense. I tried to find some video on YouTube but its lacking and most of it is from the Harden/Beverly backcourt.
     
  4. YOLO

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    i couldn't care less where you were. You're nobody to tell anyone what they have the right to do and not do. gtfoh with that bs logic. Go back to your I apologize thread and vent

    if you're going to engage in actual basketball dialogue do so. By the looks of it, thats not happening atm
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    100% well said! All the hand wringers need to take a moment and re-read this post.
     
  6. topfive

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    Like the article says, Morey thinks Ariza's and Luc's on-court production is replaceable. I'm more worried about Trevor's presence, but at this point CP3, Harden, Gordon and Nene should be able to fill in since they're all established vets. And Melo gives us a big weapon we absolutely did not have last year: a legit ISO threat from the 3/4 (or even 5 in a small-ball lineup).

    Like you said, time will tell. I'm optimistic.
     
  7. YOLO

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    That I am too
     
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  8. H-Town Melo

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    Triggered.

    If I watch a movie the whole way through and you watch bits and pieces who is more inclined to give a synopsis on the film?

    Even statistically you can't look at it and seen a decline. His points went down when his FGA did and that was because of the triangle system mostly.

    FG% over a 6 year span
    43-45-45-44-43-43
    3P% over a 6 year span
    34-38-40-34-34-36

    The bolded are his 3rd place MVP finish the very next year where his numbers were better in an offense Woodson designed based off of D'Antoni's pick n roll spacing and Melo's isolations.

    Rebounds typically 6 or 7 per every year, only one year missing games due to surgery and the Knicks tanking.

    I'm sorry but there hasn't been some decline you speak. Sure he's not as fast or explosive and his FG% dropped from his Denver days where he shot more at the rim but the year in OKC was an outlier but you wouldn't know that because you do not watch Knicks or Thunder basketball and I don't blame you.

    But this is what happens when you watch too much ESPN and listen to Twitter heads.

    Is he prime Melo? Hell no

    Is he done? Hell NO
     
  9. SWTsig

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    and again - LMM was a complete non-factor against GS. he didn't play a single minute so his loss is completely irrelevant to beating them in the playoffs. then you replace ariza's near non-existent offense against GS but solid D with a vastly superior offensive player yet lacking D (although statistically far from terrible last year). then consider that by all accounts, mentally, melo is in a vastly superior situation playing alongside guys he actually WANTS to play in an iso-heavy system while also considering he wanted damn near nothing to do w OKC until it was forced upon him... to me the potential positives far outweigh the potential negatives.

    the only way we're getting through GS this year is by getting more talented and having faith that our leaders can extract the best out of everyone. we heard from every "expert" last year that cp3 and harden wouldn't work and we went out and won 65 games and took GS to the brink. have a little more faith dude.
     
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  10. DM'sVP

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    They run pick and roll until there is a mismatch and then iso the mismatch to get an easy shot or force a double team. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  11. H-Town Melo

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    Seriously? That's it?
     
  12. YOLO

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    as I've said with @topfive discussion I'm more worried about Ariza's replacement which we still have yet to make a move for. When that will actually happen is up in the air
     
  13. YOLO

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    oh look another past reference post

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    Before everyone flips out over a few words, maybe we should have a little faith that MDA will use Melo in a way that will give us the most success on the court. I guess that's too radical an idea.
     
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    The more the media forget to mention Ennis as Ariza's replacement, the more excited I am about what he can bring. My hope for the 82 is that he breaks thru into MDA's playoff rotation. If he doesn't and PJ or Melo have to fill in the 3 slot, then I can agree with these people. Another thing that came to mind when watching this is that with a 3rd star, Harden and CP3 can't just ball watch this go-around. It worked and was barely passable last season - but if all 3 gonna share the floor together, there has to be more movement. I really like the fact that all 3 are plus-to-elite passers. Hoping we see some of that play out amongst each other.

    (I couldn't stop staring at the dude with the white hair's hairline. Looks like an optical illusion.)
     
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    We are basically a one on one team but instead of dropping the ball in the post, the offense is started at the top. We force a pick a roll switch so that the the least defensive player is guarding the ball one on one. That isolation action creates a lot of defensive reactions which in turn creates open looks at the 3 or just beat the defender for a layup or dunk.

    Melo will have an easier time with this offense because he won't have a good defender on him when we isolate him. Imagine Curry being singled out by CP3, Harden and now Melo taking turns on him. Curry will either be in foul trouble or will be too tired at the end of games so he is less effective.
     
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  17. Deuce

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    Until I see otherwise, count me in with trusting Morey/MDA's path on the team. They know what worked and what didn't. They made the move to put Tucker in at PF over Anderson. Maybe they can see the net gains of Melo on the court. Maybe they can see the positives that Ennis and MCW can bring defensively. Maybe they have some trade roadmaps planned out that they are confident they can execute.

    The goal to beat GSW is still the same. There might be more than one way to skin a cat here.
     
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  18. H-Town Melo

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    LMAO
     
  19. DM'sVP

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    Yes, and it works.
     
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  20. H-Town Melo

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    Curry is going to be toast if that happens. Will def hurt his legs which should make him miss some of those gut wrenching 3s.

    Does MDA not have any special plays he runs from side out of bounds. I remember in New York it was all pick n roll, no isolation unless late in the clock.
     

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