Trump to impose tariff on steel and aluminium, geaux Trump!

"Will Sinclair Broadcasting please respond to a spill in aisle 'Murica. Repeat, big spill in aisle 'Murica needs immediate attention."

 

At this point we are hoping to get back to Obama levels...

 

We have tariffs on the EU and they have tariffs on us still as of today. They agreed yesterday to agree on no new tariffs for now plus an undetermined amount of purchasing of US exports. Clearly Trump did not start out with us and our allies fighting China.

China is the priority but facing unilaterally is not a position of strength compared to the other options.

The EU shouldn't have been a priority as they have about twice the population and an economy not much bigger. I'll take US growth, wealth and productivity over EU trade surpluses and slower growth.

 

Maybe. This is a lot of pointless work and wasted time trying to squeeze the EU and Japan because their surplus numbers are bigger than ours when China is the real issue.

Not sure why the EU and Japan, give their economic performances, are given so much energy and time aside from a shrewd political "us vs them" perspective.

 

That's called pressure. The only language the EU speaks.

The priority was getting the EU attention and cooperation. Priority achieved. Soy was specifically mentioned, I wonder wonder why?

The Germans were face to face with an insane man who said "Tariffs are the greatest!" and **** their pants.

 

right right the only language.

Right.... but why were the tariffs necessary again? They are our allies, why didn't we start by asking them to join us against China? Is this part of the language barrier you alluded to earlier?

Because that's a product that got hit pretty hard when Trump enacted tariffs.

Kinda weird.... US farmers are producing more soybeans than ever over the last several years as global demand has risen and then get hit with tariffs due to "unfair trade practices". What an odd chain of events...

Well I'm glad the stable genius does things for LOLs.

I'm glad we got a vague deal about soybeans and LNG, seemed like we had something like that with China before with Mr Art of the Deal leading up to the US enacting tariffs on China..... hopefully he closes this deal with the EU with more than a hanshake.

 

The EU is a bureaucratic blob. They exist to continue existing, not solve problems. They have immense political pressure right now, Trump added more. Asking would get you nothing. Ask Mrs. May. They are her allies also and treating her like dirt. Her white paper, that nearly got her booted from the compromises was just laughed off by Barnier. The EU only understands threats. Trump had them over a barrel, he showed he was willing to use advantage (which will get him domestic pressures) and he will now probably get cooperation.




communist economists agree

 

In your eyes, what makes a large bureaucratic entity not a "blob"?

I want some naunce here. Not just platitides. I can just as easily type "The Eu has postively effected the common European citizen".

I want the answer in your own words. Not a YouTube video.

 

I would laugh at you and point out the spanish and greek citizens who have lost everything. Forced into perpetual unrecoverable debt.

Democratic deficit.
Lack of will to solve problems.
No transparency.
Lack of political power needed for the regulation it needs to implement.
Any real change requires treaty change of 27 members, requires referendums.

What nuance do you want exactly?

 

So it's a massive bureaucratic blob but at the same time lacks genuine enforcement power...

Also Greece's issues were of their own harsh austerity measures coupled with the world wide reccession.

Ironically thanks to the EU, Greece is seeing a surprising recovery.

 

you those as mutually exclusive I guess? I'm not sure what your position is here. The EU lacks bureaucrats?

 

Personally as an engineer I would prefer a single European standard for regulations on products and services rather than 28 individual nations with their own set of regulations.

For a manufactering business or any tech company, I would assume that would be far more preferable than having 28 different standards thus having limited markets to sell your products in Europe due to a lack of time and resources in altering specefic designs to cater towards 28 different set of regulations .

 

This is simply an argument in favor of a single market or regulatory alignment. It has nothing to do with anything I said.

 

You're premise is that the EU is a useless bureaucratic mess when in reality it has allowed corporations to spread to more markets due to streamlined regulation proccess for 28 nations .

 

The common market started with the EEC.

 

Well that's a big part of the EU's function along with the ECB governing the Eurozone (the monetary union/single currency). You haven't addressed what I said, you just rambled about a bunch of libertarian talking points. Why was it prudent to go after the EU at the same time as China instead of teaming up against China?

 

And the Euro is what their currency is called if we are just blurting out facts about the EU.

 

If you replied to when I replied to you, instead of another poster, you might see I did address your points. I addressed them with direct answers to your three specific questions. My guess is you couldn't be bothered to read it. Fine, don't read it but don't say it was libertardian talking points because it wasn't. It's really pathetic to ask a bunch of questions that probe, then not bother replying. The first post I have quoted here is from me telling someone else his argument is not in favor of the EU but of the common market, the second is telling him the common market didn't need the EU and existed prior to it's establishment.

 

Que?

So there was a unified European body that had one set of regulatory measures for manfucatuers and other services for those 28 nations?

This is a genuine question. I honestly didn't know this .

 

All you have said if the only thing the EU understands is threats, that seems more of a partisan talking point than an analysis of the situation. Apparently we had to threaten them even though they also agree about China’s trade practices.