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Astros Trade option(s)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by ZeroPoint, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. juicystream

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    Elite is kinda subjective. Soria figures to be best bank for your buck there.

    Melancon would be an intriguing, though risky option and Giants would need to eat about half of what he is owed (around $36M through 2020), and then we'd probably still chase another high leverage reliever in FA (Miller or Britton at the top of my wish list).
     
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    You mean from Toronto? He is currently suspended, but will back in August. He would fit the need, but would probably cost more prospects than Luhnow wants to give up.
     
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    I doubt we make any big moves....like Hinch said. Then team you see in front of you, is the team that will be in the playoffs.
    The Closer will be the hot hand at the time and a mix of Morton and McCullers.

    With Forest Whitley on the DL, I don't know if he will be ready to help Astros this year in the playoffs.
    Ken Giles might be back to help in a month or so. His stats in the minors so far: 4.1 innings 6 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 7 SO
    If he does well in the minors would you trust him to return? How does he respond to his first difficult situation, needs to get the crowd back on his side. Possible we don't see him again....we will see.
     
  4. BigMaloe

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    Yeah maybe it was Toronto.

    How good is he? Is he on the level of Britton? He is young and has more years of control right? At a discounted pricetag? That's typically seemed to be Luhnows type.

    How bad was this Domestic Violence? Would we be better off just hard passing?

    Sorry for all the questions.
     
  5. The Beard

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    Osuna is a legit talent

    I just can't see Luhnow bringing in a guy with that kind of baggage into the lockerroom. Our guys are as tight knit as any group you will find, seriously doubt he would risk that. Osuna can pitch though. For me it would be an absolute no
     
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  6. chievous minniefield

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    My guess is the typically poorly-run O’s were either impressed by or felt they could better sell their fanbase (or both) the “glitz” of the former #4 overall. ‍♂️
     
  7. chievous minniefield

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    Those Yankee #s (yours and Buck’s) are eye-opening.
     
  8. jim1961

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    And not in a good way.
     
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  9. BigMaloe

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    Are there any details from the arrest? I cant find any.

    I don't want a turdbucket on the team if it's especially heinous. If it was a minor incident I'd maybe be willing to look the other way as a simple mlapse in judgement mistake.

    None the less; being young, cheap, under control for years, and a stud makes it appear to be worth it especially if his value is diminished from the suspension.

    But I imagine, the same applies with regards to our top 3 untouchables so I wonder of its completely out of possibility.
     
  10. raining threes

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    Iglesias/Yates or Osuna would be guys I would be looking at.

    Osuna might be at the top of my list because he will come much cheaper than the other guys I listed.
     
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  11. Nippystix

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    With Kemp's emergence, and consistently solid play, do we really need another bat? Am I crazy for being content with Kemp as our primary DH? Tucker in LF and Kemp at DH, problem solved. Be aggressive with a potential impact C (preferably Realmuto, or perhaps Sal Perez), and our offense is set. Hell, if the acquisition cost is too high and prohibitive, stick with Stassi, and our offense is still set.
     
  12. Nook

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    Roberto Osuna is a very good closer. He isn't in the group with Kimbrel and Chapman but he is near the top of the second group.

    He will be under team control for a few more years.

    He hasn't pitched in a long time, and will be back in early August. It comes down to whether he has stayed in shape and how bad and unstable is his life outside of baseball. Eventually that spills into the game.

    The Astros would get a backlash and eventually the details will come out. Chapman was able to shake off the stink but no one knows the specific of Osuna's acts.

    I am sure Luhnow would have interest at a discounted price but not sure Crane would. In the past Crane has made comments about domestic abuse and he represents a large investor group and some of them would not be on board.
     
  13. J.R.

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    This is where I'm at on Osuna
     
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    Remember when the Yankees acquired Chapman for pennies on the dollar, then flipped him for some elite prospects, and then signed him later as a free agent? I member.

    I was really hoping that we would have taken advantage of his artificially low acquisition cost, and you could point to that sequence of events that really helped turn the Yankees into contenders again.
     
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  16. Nook

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    It depends on who is out there and what the cost in assets would be.
     
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    True. I guess this just shows that we still have different options, and we still have plenty of leverage. I knew as soon as I read that the Yanks were getting Britton, and although I was mildly disappointed, Clutchfans was going to blow up. Was not disappoint.
     
  18. Nook

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    Losing Britton to the Yankees is a double whammy. Still, I am sure it is hard for Luhnow to look at losing 5+ years of control over Cionel Perez for three months of Britton.

    Still, the Astros need to try to add to their team, the other contenders are going to and there are areas where the Astros can be improved.
     
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  19. raining threes

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    Depending on what's out there with Osuna, I hope the Stros can take advantage of this situation like the Yanks did with Chapman.
     
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    Count me as someone extremely opposed to Osuna. I understand the "just wins" mentality, but at the same time, professional sports represent something a bit bigger than just what happens in the standings. The Astros mean something to the Houston community, and they especially mean something to a whole bunch of kids in Houston who look up to these guys. Osuna seems like an awful person, awful role model. Not worth it.
     

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