Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Except that A) the applications didn't only rely on the steele dossier and B) the FBI disclosed the bias of the dossier.

You guys like to fish for flaws to create faux controversy.

 

such as?

that literally contradicts nothing in the article.

 

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Maybe the Internet Gods are questioning what tallanvor is smoking?

 

Its addressable advertising. If you are getting such ads its because you searched or visited pot related stuff. you just insulted yourself.

 

lol anyone who offers a different line of thought must be a Trump lover.

Don’t be so lazy snoopy.

 

Beyond what was blacked out and read by the House Intelligence Committee who determined there was reasonable cause...

Page was part of another spy case and he had acknowledged travel to Russia during the campaign. Furthermore the application was part of a renewal for investigation into another Trump aide. That alone demands the FBI investigate, to not do so would be a derelict of duty.

FISA applications are not supposed to name sources or actual names as that is the nature of the way they are structured. The reference to political bias implies the dossier came from opposition research without naming the DNC directly as would be protocol.

This is why Republicans like Nunes are losing credibility along with the right wing. Because they are trying to manufacture controversy where there is none. They are trying to defend a corrupt and potentially dangerous president at the expense of throwing the FBI under the bus.

Disgusting to me.

 

He traveled to Russia (which was publicly disclosed because he went to get an award) and there was another investigation. This was used to justify a wiretap?

Page was wiretapped because someone else was under investigation? Wtf are you talking about? You are proving the dossier and Steele was the justification for the wiretap. McCabe already testified to this.

You are still not contradicting anything McCarthy said

 

It does contradict the Nunes memo. Talk about moving the goal posts.

 

You should watch that segment I posted from Browder if you think we have just surrendered.

Do you think it’s a surrender to do the deal presented by Putin to allow each nation’s law enforcement to visit the other country to conduct their interrogations? We have a treaty in place that has existed for 4 presidents. I don’t think it’s an absurd proposal. Sure it might turn up nothing, but I don’t understand why it hasn’t been utilized if we truly are serious.

It’s not false equivalence. It’s how you present the information. We have far outpaced Russia in invasions, covert ops against foreign states, and civilian killings by armed forces over the past 20 years. You tell me how many people died in that Crimean “invasion”. If Russia did all things that we have done since Putin came to power then we would be involved in World War III. I’d be curious who has greater surveillance capabilities over its citizens. I’d guess it has to be us, but who knows. Anyhow, you shouldn’t try to ignore the reality of what we have done and what we continue to do by simply dismissing it as a false equivalence.

And you are clearly correct that Russia is not a free truly democratic society with free speech and freedom of the press. They aren’t a Western country and they aren’t trying to orient themselves to be one either. Sure it would be better for their economy if they weren’t a corrupt oligarchy but that’s their business. There are a whole bunch of states like this in the world. Should we turn our backs on all of them? No, of course not.

 

So what's going on with the hats?

 

Do you enjoy being wrong all of the time? The application for the warrant discussed the possible bias of the Steele dossier for more than a page. The Steele dossier has had numerous parts of it verified, as in was accurate, and more of it verified as time has moved forward. Those parts have been listed on this website numerous times. You should check it out.

The Steele dossier was only one part of what they presented to get the FISA warrants. They didn't mislead the judges with the evidence they presented.

I admire that you don't get embarrassed by these claims. I am being totally serious.

 

Why did Trump pick folks like Page, with Russian ties? He picked interesting people to run his campaign while this Russian interfering was happening.

 

Probably because he wants good relations with Russia.

 

Why did they all lie about their Russian connections?

 

I’m not saying you can trust Putin to be faithful. Hell Putin still thinks we can do something about Browder...he isn’t even an American citizen anymore lol.

That said we have a treaty in place. He is offering a pretty low risk deal at least from how it seems so we should call him on it. Also out of general curiousity I wonder where the truth lies on the Browder case. Obviously, Putin is Putin and he strong armed him, but I still think there is more to the Superman anti-corruption crusader Browder being completely squeaky clean. Maybe I’m just too cynical.

 

It doesnt.


Here is the exact quote from the Nunes memo

Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named U.S. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law firm (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actors were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of—and paid by—the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.

All of this is absolutely true without a doubt.

 

The application does say that it was funded by a political opponent of Trump's. There is one whole page explaining the possible bias of the Steele report. Nunes lied.

 

Page was advised not to go on the trip and he went around that for an award ceremony? Puh-lease. And Page admitted to discussing both the presidential campaign and sanctions "indirectly" he also admitted to discussing the Republican platform change around arming Ukraine.

He was caught up in another case, and like I said, this was an ongoing investigation that existed PRIOR to the Steele Dossier.

By FBI standards that is enough to wiretap him - especially considering the Trump campaign later listed him as a potential Russian agent.

If you don't like the FISA court and how it works you should have complained when the law was put into effect, not when you don't like that your corrupt traitor of a President is the one that is on the short end of the stick.

I hope Trump goes to prison for what he has done.

 

that doesnt contradict anything Nunes wrote..........

I just posted it for you.

 

Yes, it does. It contradicts the exact message he was trying to convey.