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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. Aceshigh7

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    US citizen children are separated from their parents every day when their parent is charged and detained for a crime and there is no family member available for placement. That doesn’t equate to no due process.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Man you really seem to not know what words mean.

    You just throw around words like "inhumane" and "due process" without any concept of what they actually mean.

    US citizens are separated from their US citizen children all the time, even when they are innocent. It's typical for that to happen to US citizens when they are arrested while they are going through due process.

    Whoever programmed this bot should have done a better job.
     
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  3. NewRoxFan

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    In none of these cases is there no plan or process to reunite the parents and family. Especially not in the case of a misdemeanor.
     
  4. Aceshigh7

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    US citizens detained for a crime would naturally be processed similarly to all other US citizens in cases where no family placement being possible. As for the illegals, the Vice President says there’s a plan. Now who am I gonna believe? The second most powerful person in the government, or a biased liberal who has promoted false information and fake news time and time again? That’s a tough one.
     
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  5. NewRoxFan

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    You choose to believe a vice president that has been proven to lie to you. Big mistake...

    The DHS didn't even unveil such a plan until June 24 (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393827-dhs-unveils-plan-to-reunite-immigrant-families ) and that was announced (under media, ACLU, and public pressure) well after the families were also separated and detailed. And that hastily thrown together "plan" appears to be a huge failure:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...reunite-kids-parents-separated-border-n889301
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rant-families-faster-skip-most-dna-tests.html
    https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...e-to-reunite-immigrant-families/269-572613602
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    SMH...

    Trump spiritual adviser: Jesus would have been sinful if he broke immigration laws
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...iser-jesus-would-have-been-sinful-if-he-broke
     
  7. Aceshigh7

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    They're not sending their best, folks. Sadly, a lot of you are on the wrong side of this debate.

    Feds: 1-in-5 Illegal Aliens Crossing with Toddlers Are Criminals, a Danger

    By John Binder 13 Jul 2018 Washington, D.C.

    About 1-in-5 illegal alien adults crossing the United States-Mexico border with toddlers under the age of five are either criminals, not the child’s parent, or present some other danger to the child.

    A new report released by the White House finds that of the 102 border crossing toddlers who were mandated by the courts to be reunited with the illegal alien adults they arrived with, 21 of the adults were found to be unfit to be reunited with the toddlers they crossed with.

    This means that about 1-in-5 illegal alien adults arriving in the U.S. with toddlers are not eligible to have those children placed back in their care and custody after being separated at the border.

    The White House outlined the cases of the 21 illegal alien adults who are unfit to be reunited with the toddlers they arrived with. Those cases include:

    11 of the illegal aliens have criminal records:
    1. Warrant for murder in Guatemala
    2. Child cruelty and narcotics convictions
    3. Suspected transnational criminal organization involvement and human trafficking
    4. Outstanding criminal warrant in El Salvador
    5. 2 DUI convictions
    6. Significant criminal history including assault conviction
    7. Outstanding warrant in Florida for DUI
    8. DUIs, assault, stolen vehicle
    9. Robbery conviction
    10. Wanted by El Salvador
    11. Criminal charges including assault
    7 of the illegal aliens not the parents of the toddler:
    1. Adult said he is uncle, not father
    2. Negative DNA match, adult indicated he is not the child’s father
    3. Adult said she is grandmother, not mother
    4. During DNA testing, adult disclosed she is not the child’s mother
    5. Negative DNA match, still under investigation
    6. Adult disclosed that she is grandmother, not the parent
    7. Adult presented false birth certificate, still under investigation
    2 of the illegal aliens present a danger to the toddler:
    1. Before court order, adult was required to submit information and fingerprints of other adults in household where she will live with the child; background check on adult male in household shows an active warrant for aggravated criminal sexual assault of a 10-year-old female.
    2. Child made allegations of abuse against adult
    1 of the illegal aliens has a communicable disease:

    21. Parent is being treated for communicable disease in ICE custody

    The White House says that if the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) had not properly vetted each of the illegal alien adults that arrived with toddlers at the border, the cases would have resulted in seven of the 102 children being reunited with adults who are not their parents, four of which would not have even been related to the children.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    So 4 out of 5 are not a danger. 7 of those in the 21 are likely relatives but not the actual parents, so they aren't a danger to anyone else. So already it's less than 1 out of 5 that is a danger.

    So because fewer than 1 out of 5 is a possible danger you are good with breaking up more than 4 out of 5 families that aren't a danger.

    Some people are on the wrong side, but you might want to re-examine who think that is.
     
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    Folks acting on their sense of right and wrong...

    Homeland Security advisory council members resign over family separations: report
    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/39...-family-separations?__twitter_impression=true
     
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    Thank goodness. It is nice to see some people making a strong statement with their resignations.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    The clock is ticking on nielsen...

     
  13. NewRoxFan

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    Oops, that didn't go as planned on trump's morning briefing show...

     
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  16. NewRoxFan

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    fox had some 'splaining to do...

     
  17. Amiga

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    Sad reminder of the state of “news” media.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    So they got hit with a bait and switch....and you think this was their fault?
     
  19. Senator

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    The bigger issue is, why don't you and the rest of the bleeding liberals care as much about the toddlers of Americans living in rural America? Because their backstory isn't as juicy? You'd have a democrat Presiident if you did.

    Anyone in a gang should be sterilized and their kids don't deserve any sympathy.
     
  20. larsv8

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    Wow, you are a piece of **** human being.
     

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