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[The Hill] Officials in Boston are considering allowing non-citizens to vote

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. CCorn

    CCorn Member

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    I love me some Indian, mexican, Chinese, Japanese etc. cuisines. I am glad houston is diverse and full of immigrants.

    You should move to Vidor
     
  2. juicystream

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    Are you serious or joking? I agree that things do grow organically this way, but that is a terrible argument. You can't avoid doing things just to avoid a possible future change. If it happens, it is because at the end of the day it is what the people wanted. For this to become a National thing it would require Constitutional change, which takes pretty overwhelming support.
     
  3. juicystream

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    But the city can make the voting change, they can't make citizenship changes.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I always find it weird when people say this, nearly everyone is "pro-immigration", so you really aren't saying anything. The only time you need to specify if you are "pro" or "anti" something is if there is legitimate disagreement about it. So for example, if you are "pro-illegal immigration" it would be necissary to say that, but there wouldn't be a need to say that you are "anti-murder"
     
  5. edwardc

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    Have you heard of a mole hill things like this turn in to a mountain real fast.This is like all the immigration protest a lot of them started small now there one weekly.
     
  6. juicystream

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    Yes, but you can make this argument for literally anything.
     
  7. edwardc

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    So again why start this one there is a time for that to take place now is not that time let get one thing done to make sure farther mistake aren't made.
     
  8. juicystream

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    If you support legal immigrants right to vote in local elections, you should support this.

    If you don't, then you shouldn't.

    Simple as that. You don't stop this because you believe illegal immigrants shouldn't vote, or that legal immigrants shouldn't vote in other types of elections.
     
  9. edwardc

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    I support legal immigrants that are citizens of America to be able to vote not only in local election but in all matters.
     
  10. cml750

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    I wonder how many people not familiar with the Golden Triangle actually know about Vidor? Vidor is much better than it used to be but still has a ways to go. ;)
     
  11. Cohete Rojo

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    What's up, yo? Don't wanna bring up those diffy-q's right now?
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Ya, if you want?
     
  13. Major

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    This isn't true - as usual, you don't seem to know much about history. Today, there are all sorts of places in Maryland where non-citizens can vote. In the past, it occurred all over the place. More recently, various states and cities have discussed it or proposed bills to allow it. You could have learned this with a 20 second Google search, had you actually been interested.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right...#Places_where_non-citizens_can_currently_vote

    However, over 40 states or territories, including colonies before the Declaration of Independence, have at some time given at least some aliens voting rights in some or all elections.[8][9][10][11] For example, in 1875, the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett noted that "citizenship has not in all cases been made a condition precedent to the enjoyment of the right of suffrage. Thus, in Missouri, persons of foreign birth, who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, may under certain circumstances vote."[12]

    By 1900, nearly half of the states and territories had some experience with voting by aliens, and for some the experience lasted more than half a century.[13] At the turn of the twentieth century, anti-immigration feeling ran very high, and Alabama stopped allowing aliens to vote by way of a constitutional change in 1901; Colorado followed suit in 1902, Wisconsin in 1908, and Oregon in 1914.[14] Just as the nationalism unleashed by the War of 1812 helped to reverse the alien suffrage policies inherited from the late eighteenth century, World War I caused a sweeping retreat from the progressive alien suffrage policies of the late nineteenth century.[15] In 1918, Kansas, Nebraska, and South Dakota all changed their constitutions to purge alien suffrage, and Texas ended the practice of non-citizen voting in primary elections by statute.[14] Indiana and Texas joined the trend in 1921, followed by Mississippi in 1924 and, finally, Arkansas in 1926.[16] In 1931, political scientist Leon Aylsworth noted: "For the first time in over a hundred years, a national election was held in 1928 in which no alien in any state had the right to cast a vote for a candidate for any office – national, state, or local."[17]
     
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  14. BigDog63

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    You left out 'hole'. Ass-hole. There, fixed it for ya.
     
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