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(Shams) Kawhi Leonard wants out of San Antonio

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jacoby, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    yeah I don't care if Kawhi is a Spur or Jazz or whatever. He's a spoiled coward diva of the worst kind.
     
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  2. heypartner

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    So, vicious name-calling is a solid point? Maybe it is, but I would say the "coward" label is largely speculation, especially moving forward....and has zero solid-point elements to it, whether you agree with that type of name-calling or not.

    Calling him a coward is butt hurt rage....which is sooooo sad....and I looove it.
     
  3. KingCheetah

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    So fluid points that added to her solid points to create a complete narrative.
     
  4. malakas

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    when someone doesn't have the guts to meet his long time coach or managment face to face and tell himself his opinion and decisions, that's a coward or an agoraphobic. Since Kawhi isn't agoraphobic then he's a coward.
    When someone avoids and hides then that's a coward.

    There's absolutely nothing vicious about it just like there's nothing vicious about calling Kyrie a r****d. It's based on facts.
    And if you doubt those facts being real..where is Kawhi refuting them?
    He's busy hiding.

    I'm not mad. Only disgusted.
     
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  6. heypartner

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    yeah, a complete narrative likely planned to get Kawhi to speak so they have more material ... somewhat like McHale saying Harden isn't a leader either.

    OK. It's fine to couch that in "guts" or "coward."

    But the context was supposed to answer Jalen's question about joining Lebron or going it alone on Clippers. She answered that with rage, and few solid points, if any. Saying he can't be a leader of the Clippers moving-forward is a McHale comment about Harden.
     
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    I don't see how someone with such cowardy behaviour who can't even talk his own mind and runs away and hides, is fit to be any kind of leader?
     
  8. heypartner

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    Pure speculation...when you're talking about someone with the performance track record of Kawhi Leonard.
     
  9. malakas

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    a leader is required to be there. Kawhi prefers to hide and run. That is his perfomance track record when it comes to leadership.
    Bellow Zero socialising skills = great leader material..?:rolleyes:
     
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    Cat got his tongue?
     
  11. heypartner

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    No it's not. That's just bashing a Top 5 Superstar, and trying to control the definition of what it takes to be a leader on a freaking basketball court.

    argue all you want, but Beadle saying he can't be a leader is pure speculation...and in no way a Solid Point of fact.

    There are precedence for a quiet, two-way Superstar being a leader by example on the court ... and that precedence starts with Hakeem, who also got savagely bashed by the Houston media and ownership for claims of quitting and faking injuries.
     
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    solid point, bro
     
  13. malakas

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    There is a small difference between being quiet and being absent.
    I'm sorry that your hatred for Popovich has made you trying to irrationally support Kawhi to this point.
    Fact is that no matter if he wants to join another team or not or what other motives he has, his behaviour for a year now has been the exact antithesis of a leader.
     
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    Listen Bruh, do you hear anything? That quiet emptiness is caused by the void Kawhi has created by not speaking about his current situation.
     
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  15. heypartner

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    Hating Popovich has nothing to do with pointing out that Beadle was not answering Jalen's question with many solid facts.

    I think your points and Beadle's are centered around your equal hatred of Kawhi and wanting to see him fail going forward. You trying to connect a disgruntled superstars reasons and actions around dealing with mgmt (or lack thereof) with whether or not he can succeed in the future has nothing to do with my hatred of Popovich, and everything to do with your own dislikes and attached speculations.

    So what. He's disgruntled. What does his unwilling to be a leader for the Spurs have to do with his future prospects?

    This is pure speculation that his disgust and hatred of the Spurs organization or his Diva antics to lift his brand will prevent him from ever being a leader on the court again, when he's already become a clear two-way, Top 5 Superstar....with all sorts of on-court accolades.

    It's pure speculation
     
  16. heypartner

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    Beadle is doing perfectly fine filling Kawhi's quiet interludes with rage. I feel so sad for her. It's like Beadle's bff broke up with her, and won't respond to her rage and vengeful facts.

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    Philly better hop on that deal...sideways...up front and never look back. Fultz, a 1st rounder, and very likely Covington for Kawhi, if that.
     
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    You really like to throw around the words "facts" and "speculations." So here are some facts.

    Fact: Kawhi, up to this point, has not come out to defend himself of false accusations nor to verify true statements.
    Fact: Not one person has been critical of Popovich, of the Spurs organization nor anything else the Spurs have done, regarding this Kawhi situation.
    Fact: Kawhi's image is slowly getting tarnished by the media. That's not his fault, but to defend himself, wouldn't he come out to say something? ANYTHING?

    I don't know anything about you, HP, but if you were having problems with a boss or a colleague at work, I'm speculating that you wouldn't use a family member or a close friend as a mouthpiece / a way to get your message across. You'd be big enough to sit down with them or HR, face-to-face, to air out transgressions. I bet even more so, if that boss or colleague started to badmouth you to everyone who'd listen.

    What Kawhi is doing (hiding, not talking) is not helping his brand or reputation. He's still under contract with the team that drafted him. This isn't a "Kawhi is a UFA" scenario, where Kawhi can rope-a-dope the Spurs organization as he pleases.

    Last point: It's sad. Honestly and truly sad, that you keep defending the (lack of) actions of Kawhi to CFers more than Kawhi defends himself to the basketball-watching public. That is just so funny to me.

    "quiet interludes" lmaoooo. The dude's a wimp. (speculation.)
     
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  19. heypartner

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    Dude, where did I defend Kawhi's action in any posts today. I'm making fun of Beadle.

    You seem mad I'm happy that Spurs-land is blowing up, rather than defending Pops and the Spur org and bashing the superstar.

    Let me clue you on to something....there is no way you're going to convince me to give a ****.

    I think your weird defense of the Spurs stems from your fear that Kawhi might go to the Lakers. If he doesn't, this is a huge Rockets Fan win.
     
  20. J.R.

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    https://www.theringer.com/2018/7/7/...ade-possibilities-and-summer-league-takeaways

    Kevin O'Connor: I just don't think it's happening with the Lakers. I don't see a deal there. I don't think the Clippers have enough. I still think the Spurs will drag this out as long as it needs to go, maybe into the season. I can see this going like Carmelo Anthony before he was traded to the Knicks, dragging into February.
     
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