Capela- Qualifying offer or signing him long term?

Lol, you're absolutely correct. My bad. Combination of drunk CFing and being triggered by the words "Morey" and "asset."

 

the QO is pointless because he's going to be upset all year and then bolt anyways.

but at the same time no way i want to pay him $110M to catch lobs either.

if he doesn't accept 4/80 then best option is to S&T him elsewhere and get something back in return

 

The Otto Porter Movement includes this scenario in its teachings.

 

I am new to the strategy here, and kinda learning as I go... But I am saddened to hear of the 4.7 mil qualifying offer. Clint was huge for us. Why wouldn't they just offer him the $15-16 million a year deal now? He'd be happy; we'd be happy; and no surprises come next year. $4.7 million is an insult. (No wonder there is a thread about how unhappy he is). Can someone tell me why we would offer him so little?

 

Capela should call DeMarcus Cousins and ask him about the open market. If the Rox are offering him anywhere from $15-20 million for multiple years, he should take it. If the guy gets injured while on a qualifying offer, the money will dry up Quickly.

 

he probably saw deandre get $24M and now he's stuck on that

 

Always remember Kelvin Cato.... Never give the guy money you don't have to just because you like him... And yes... Capela is WAYYYYY better than him. You want to get Capela to agree to a contract he can live with but he knows he has to keep producing so the next time around he will make big bucks...he's still really young right now.

 

Clint for Otto Porter? I dunno. I live in DC and Porter is nice but what Clint does for us is more important than what Porter can do for us.

 

Making Capela that qualifying offer was require in order to make him a restricted FA. That number is set by the league. Every restricted FA except Jokic got to a similar QO.

I'm sure that the Rockets have made an offer on that $15m range. I think that Capela had his sites set on a deal closer to the max.

In these type of situations, teams generally tell the player to go get his best deal and they will match. That's likely why there were reports of Capela's agent contacting 10 teams. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a market for him at anywhere close to the max.

Does that make sense? The QO has to be filed with the league. The real negotiations are just between the Rockets and Capela. The official QO was nothing more than a formality to allow the Rockets to mat h any offer.

 

Ok, thank you. So, you are saying that you extend the qualifying offer until a team offers a term sheet and you then have to match, if you want to keep him. How does the scenario play out if he accepts the qualifying offer--(which would mean that Morey has accurately assessed that the market is pretty dry for bigs this off season and has held to your motto of not paying anymore than required)--but as the 2018-2019 season starts you can see he is going to have a standout year and be up for a big 2019 off season payday? Can you renegotiate during the 2018-2019 season (essentially saying "Uncle"), and pay him what you have to at that point? And if you can...wouldn't you be concerned that his hurt feelings will lead him to pass on renegotiation? Thanks for this.

 

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Thank you. Makes sense.

 

I have SERIOUS reservations about paying Clint what he wants, too. But a big factor in this equation is opportunity costs. Who can we get to take Clint's place and give us what he gives us? There are a couple out there, but do we actually have a firm lead on one of them? If we let Clint go and don't have a vertical threat at the 5, we are toast until that's resolved.

 

So Morey will pretty much match any offer for him at this point. The question is how much is the offer he's getting? But he isn't getting offers. So nothing matters after that. If there is no market for him to where he can bring back an offer he likes and signs then he is out of luck. He isn't going to be happy accepting a QO and having to make sure he doesn't get seriously hurt all season. It's in the best intereest of his future to work with the Rockets on a number that will get him paid while they can maneuver for the future. He is still young and his success is due to Harden and CP3. I think if he works out a 4 year deal with the Rockets right now, he will get paid MAX dollars at the end of it by someone. If he can develop a jumper in those 4 years, I have no doubt that he can get the max. He already improved free throw shooting and I'm hoping he keeps it up. He can't look at the past couple of summers of people getting stupid money. He is still young and can have a long career. As soon as you can't play up to a contract you are trash in this league unfortunately.

 

Thanks brother, and you too aelliott, your posts have been very helpful.

 

No worries man. Takes years of lurking CF to get a good understanding of all the craziness...

 

If it's only 56 mil, ofcourse you'd pay him that but his agent will likely advise him to take the QO.

 

Baited me for a like more or less.

 

All he said was Morey is an asset man and would like to lock up Capela for 4 years. Whats wrong with that?

There is nothing wrong with treating players like assets or seeing people as assets. Nothing the dude said was offensive at all.

 

This is a kid the Rocks drafted and developed into a unique player who fits perfectly with the system we've got. He was the talk of the league during the playoffs, outplaying guys that were supposed to be better than him. He's a key starter, probably 3rd behind James and Chris in importance, and deserves to be rewarded for his dedication to raising his game, dedication that was key to a 65 win season that had us 2 games away from cleaning Oakland's clock.

Some pretend that Clint would be easy to replace. I think that's nonsense, and why would we want to? As has been suggested, we have different ways to approach a resolution to the Clint Conundrum. A 4 year deal that's about $70 million, with the 4th season a player option, sounds good to me. Capela would be about 27 at its end and entering him prime. By then, with luck from the basketball gods, Clint's already got at least one ring and for his next contract would get a very generous offer - from us. Fingers crossed. Heck, I wouldn't mind $70 million, with a chance at a larger deal in 3 years if one wishes to go that route. Sign me up!

 

That poster called me on it and I already responded to him: "Lol, you're absolutely correct. My bad. Combination of drunk CFing and being triggered by the words "Morey" and "asset." "

It's all good now.