Mexicans just elected a president who wants to give amnesty to the cartels

I believe in education, treatment and enforcement. All three are very important.

 

I agree, so then how is more enforcement going to work for Mexico? The enforcement itself is corrupt.

 

Getting the cartels out of power in Mexico is going to take a while, but the first step in that very long journey is to cut a giant hole in their revenue stream by liberalizing the drug laws in the US and Mexico.

 

Or treat them like Nazis and exterminate them from the world.

 

That's been the strategy for the last umpteen years.

Big fat fail.

There will always be new blood willing to risk it for the biscuit.

Not to mention the untold suffering and devastation brought to neighborhoods and the citizens guilty of these victimless crimes.

 

So in other words, buy a really REALLY expensive security blanket.

 

That's when you declare martial law and send in the military to clear out the cartels instead of being little b****es and rolling over for the cartels.

 

You know the Military work for the Cartel right? They pay better

 

Not if you do it right. Surrendering to the Cartels just suggests that Mexico isn't a real country, that their people are nothing but little b****es, and that their land deserves to be conquered by those with the balls and power to enforce the law. Of course if their people are that weak and pathetic, they don't deserve a vote, so any conquering entity would want to install a different form of government so that the weak little b****es that live there couldn't screw it up again.

That said, I prefer to think that the Mexicans and their government is more competent than you prefer to believe.

 

Well, this is certainly an authoritarian take...

It's not that simple. As mentioned, part of the military work for the cartels, some of the politicians, some of law enforcement. It's not as simple as 'Killing them all' because at the end of the day you are killing many innocent people that are caught in a rock and a hard place.

It seems many people don't understand how these things work. It's not only money, it's also "We know where your wife and daughter live..." too. So it's not just about pounding your chest and going rambo.

Latin America has had these issues for a while now and you know what NEVER has worked? That strategy. That strategy has NEVER worked.

 

It's really not. If you are incapable of enforcing your laws and keeping your people safe and controlling your own military then you are not a country. It absolutely is as simple as killing them off and yes, you'll kill many innocent people as well but if you don't do that, you don't have an actual country.....it's why you never let things get that bad in the first place.

In fact, hell if they aren't going to be a real country, the US might as well take 50 or so miles worth of additional land in order to set up a no go zone to make patrolling the border much easier. If they aren't a real country they have no claim to the land.

Anyway, I'm not quite ready to throw up the white flag like some of you, hopefully Mexico will decide to be a real country and not surrender to the cartels.

 

Again, you are suggesting a strategy that has never worked. That is the very definition of insanity.

You then say "Well, you'll kill innocent people." which is exactly what the cartels want. The government is supposed to protect its people, not declare all out war against them.

As for US claiming more land, you realize that there are other countries, right? That would be a good way spark a major international war.

 

it's never been fully done either. The point is that the Mexican government has to actively declare war on the cartels, and I don't mean that only in a rhetorical sense, they need to fight them as if they are ISIS.....because that's effectively what they are.

Also, if Mexico isn't a real country, then it's not their land. It's why I'm suggesting that Mexico remain a real country.

 

Yes, yes it has. See Colombia.

They literally declared war on drug cartels, even with USA's help. DEA Agents even got caught in the corruption because sex parties with Colombian women is probably pretty enticing to the average man.

 

Bullshit.

 

Someone has been binging on Narcos.

 

I literally just linked you a news story about this very thing.

 

Sorry champ. For as long as most of us have been alive, there's been a multi-nation, quasi-military, anti-drug war going on.

It has been a miserable, indisputable, abject failure.

Sure, we can double down and invest in more spatulas and time to squash the roaches, or scale all the way up to flamethrowers (per your apparent desire), but in the end you'll just burn your own house down in pursuit of an unattainable goal.

Perhaps instead of focusing on the symptoms, we should treat the problem. Remove the lucrative market for illicit drugs, and the problem fixes itself. This has played itself out in democratic, industrialized countries all over the planet. This is settled science.