2018 Astros Minor League Thread

I guess the benefit for Perez is he’s already on the 40 man. Only thing I wonder is if this is a pre-emotive move related to Keuchel hitting the DL?

 

With JD Davis also out of the lineup in Fresno, you almost have to wonder if a starter is going on the DL. Guduan or Hoyt could have easily been called up if they wanted a short reliever.

 

They're not going to add Tucker to the roster as a temporary fill in.

 

Fresno batters tonight had 17 hits (4HRS) 3 walks, and 0 strikeouts.

 

They’re not going to call up Tucker during a road trip and lose that juice at the ticket gates. Friday-Sunday how games usually draw pretty well. Tuesday’s are $1 hot dog nights. My guess is they call him up on July 9 vs OAK.

 

Tucker has not been called up because the Super 2 date isn't here yet. If the Astros wait just another week or so, they get another year of cheap team control.

Tucker could hit 1.00 with a 1.7 slugging % over the next week and he's still not getting called up until that date has passed.

Now, when it's no longer an issue, I expect him to be called up immediately. They will want to give him plenty of time to adjust to major league pitching before the playoffs

 

Who gives a ****? If he can hit he can hit, if he can't then he can't. Ortiz was never svelte and all he did was hit. It's all on Reed, none of us know **** from shinola.

 

Makes sense but I'm pretty sure they called up Correa on the road.

 

Who is this "yall" you speak of?

 

That team got off to a surprisingly fast start in 2015 and needed all the help it could get to sustain and make the postseason. These are the defending champs and can afford to wait a while. If he’s anywhere similar to a Benintendi, just give us the trophy now.

So who leaves when he comes up? I think Jake stays because AJ looooves him. Kemp is a major leaguer. He’s hitting like .320 with a solid sample size. Trade high and let him play every day somewhere else?

 

A.J Reed is not David Ortiz, Reed is getting traded. Many AAA guys are also,Tyler White, A.J Reed are called up because the are showcasing them for a trade for a Bullpen Piece. Remember Colin Moran, Teoscar Hernandez being called up last year. Same Scenario.

 

I've said this multiple times: Hit or don't. They're not showing Reed off for anything.

Davis and White are who they are, everyone knows it at this point.

 

Literally none of this is true. Super 2 doesn't change how much control a team has, it just converts one of the prearb years to arbitration, which isn't that big of a deal. The Astros have had top prospects like Springer and McCullers be super 2.

Also there is no specific super 2 date, because the cutoff isn't determined until a few years later, but it's pretty much always early June (Correa was called up June 6th I believe and is not super 2) so at this point it's not a concern. The Rays are loathe to call up top prospects before they believe the cutoff will be, and you'll notice bauers and Adames are in the majors

 

This is all true, but I'd bet given the current payroll constraints that Luhnow probably wouldn't let another prospect get super two status. Luhnow has yet to pay that 4th year of arb for those two guys but that could have really hurt the budget. (Actually I think Springer bought out his 4th year).

 

Springer bought out his 2nd and 3rd years, he's still got one more year of Arb eligibility when his contract ends. I doubt the Astros go to great lengths to avoid super 2, because that would only be an issue if you never send the prospect down again and the rules don't change by the time the player hits arbitration. Maybe they delay a call up a week or 2 if it's close, but it doesn't make too much sense to hurt the team to maybe save yourself an indeterminate amount of money starting 3 years from now.

This year it doesn't matter because the deadline is almost certainly passed, and the Astros are so strong, but if they look to be in a tight rave with the Angels next year, do you think the Astros would keep Whitley down for a month and risk being a wildcard or missing the playoffs just to pay him less in 2021?

 

I hope so?
I have nothing against these guys getting paid or anything, but ownership has a set amount of money they are going to spend and I’d rather they keep Whitley and Tucker cheap for as long as they can so we can get more dudes for the team. Just like I’d rather Luhnow not overpay for the wrong stuff with other guys.
1 month of Whitley (as a rookie) is likely to be worth what- 0.5 WAR? Whereas an $18 or $20 million dollar savings in 2025 is worth probably a borderline all star on the free market. Yes, I want them to keep those guys down as long as it makes any kind of sense to do so. I’d be just fine with seeing Tucker 4/15/2019 (or whenever the date is that gets 1 more year of club control and seeing Whitley 6/15/19 (after super 2)

 

Perhaps a little benefit of the doubt would've been appropriate here.

I didn't say it added an extra year of total control...I said team control, which is literally the name of the pre-arb years.

Also, I know there is no specific super 2 date, but the most recent estimate i remember from spring training was early July (which is why I said "a week or so"). Obviously this could have changed as teams made roster decisions.

Finally, you're right that if Tucker had been mashing through May, the Super 2 "date" likely wouldn't have mattered. But since his hitting streak started a few weeks ago, they probably wanted to see if it was sustainable, and as we have come closer to the "date", they probably thought "we can save $3-5 million by just waiting a week or two, plus we can give some of these other guys call-ups in the meantime".

Seriously...we will go insane if we all have to spell out our intimate knowledge of the collective bargaining agreement every time we post.