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Hillary's racist comments about Gandhi and Indians

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  1. bigtexxx

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    This disgusts me.



    From CNN.com

    Remarks called stereotypical, racially insensitive
    Tuesday, January 6, 2004 Posted: 9:05 PM EST (0205 GMT)


    ST. LOUIS, Missouri (AP) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton apologized for joking that Mahatma Gandhi used to run a gas station in St. Louis, saying it was "a lame attempt at humor."

    The New York Democrat made the remark at a fund-raiser Saturday. During an event here for Senate candidate Nancy Farmer, Clinton introduced a quote from Gandhi by saying, "He ran a gas station down in St. Louis."

    After laughter from many in the crowd of at least 200 subsided, the former first lady continued, "No, Mahatma Gandhi was a great leader of the 20th century." In a nod to Farmer's underdog status against Republican Sen. Kit Bond, Clinton quoted the Indian independence leader as saying: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

    The director of a U.S. center devoted to Gandhi's teachings called the remarks stereotypical and racially insensitive, while an educator said the flap underscored the need for politicians to be cautious when trying to get laughs.

    "Political speeches can't be like episodes of The Simpsons," said David Robertson, a University of Missouri-St. Louis political science professor.

    After being approached by The Associated Press to clarify the remarks, Clinton suggested in a statement sent late Monday that she never meant to fuel any stereotype -- often used as a comedic punch line -- that certain ethnic groups were synonymous with operating America's gas stations.

    "I have admired the work and life of Mahatma Gandhi and have spoken publicly about that many times," Clinton said in a two-sentence statement. "I truly regret if a lame attempt at humor suggested otherwise."

    So does Michelle Naef, administrator of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence, the Memphis, Tennessee-based nonprofit group founded in 1991 by a Gandhi grandson to promote his grandfather's teachings, including nonviolent resistance.

    While crediting Clinton and her husband, former President Clinton, as long having "supported the Gandhi message," Naef said Saturday's remarks "could be incredibly harmful" in perpetuating racial myths.

    "I don't think she was, in any way, trying to demean Mahatma Gandhi," Naef said. "To be generous to her, I would say it was a poor attempt at humor. Perhaps I'm overly sensitive, but I find it offensive when people use stereotypes in that way."

    To Robertson, the professor, the flap demonstrates the potential peril of when humor by politicians falls flat.

    "The more prominent the politician, the more they've taken positions on equality in the past as Mrs. Clinton has, the more this is going to be troubling to some people," he said. "It's understandable that groups want to make sure they're treated with complete respect."

    When it comes to Hillary Clinton, he said, "there's no reason to think she doesn't admire Gandhi, like so many people do. After all, Gandhi was influential to Martin Luther King Jr., and I know she respects King."
     
  2. Manny Ramirez

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    TL already beat you to it:

     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Two threads might be needed for this DISGUSTING comment from one of America's "alleged" leaders.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    I already posted this in the thread on the same topic but I'll direct my comment specifically to your disgust.

    Lighten up. It was a lame joke but clearly Hillary Clinton was not mocking Gandhi. She folled the general dictum of lead off with a joke but she didn't stick with it and made it clear she was praising him, albeit with a little friendly ribbing.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    The fact that she even associates Indians and owning gas stations is racist and unacceptable, no matter if she was joking or not.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    So Hillary won't be counting on your vote in 2008/2012?
     
  8. dc rock

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    Phoney sympathy for racial issues disgusts me.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Accusing others of being phoney disgusts me.
     
  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    If you're not being a phoney, party shill, please express this level of disgust the next time a Republican says something racially ignorant. That's a sincere request, and I'll be waiting, giving you the benefit of the doubt until then. Cheers.
     
  11. bnb

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    So we've become the Debase and Disgust forum?
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    I abhor all racism and have never made comments otherwise.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    The fact that 3 consecutive people can't spell "phony" disgusts me the most of all.
     
  15. rrj_gamz

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    Hillary is a joke...She was a joke before the "foot in mouth" attempt at humor and still is...
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    I think your all phoni'.
     
  17. dc rock

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    Actually, I've changed my mind. People that know how to spell words like "phony" disgust me. Do you use the word a lot in letters or signs you disgusting human being? :eek: ;) :mad: :)
     
  18. SamFisher

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    PHONY GAS FOR SALE -- THANK YOU AND COME AGAIN!
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Who cares? She made a silly bad taste joke, big deal.

    But if you criticize Lott for the same thing, you should be outraged by Clinton.

    If not, you are a hypocrit.

    As for me.....it is just a case of bad humor.....

    We are too sensitive.

    Nothing to see here, move on....

    DD
     
  20. B-Bob

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    Cool. Me too. I'm a little surprised that Hillary would have said that -- what a bizarre brain fart. Whatever else one says about her, I've always thought she was shrewd.

    Sam, LOL. phuq yuo if yuo dunt like mi speling.
     

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