Not treating every crossing of the border by families who are first time offenders as a criminac prosecution but rather a civil procedure so that the families can stay together during the deportation process. Not only is it inhumane, it also is fiscally db as the civil procidpro takes signficantly less time and doesn't eat into our prison system. You get your deportations and the families can stay together.
Except you don't get your deportations because in a vast amount of cases they disappear rather than willingly subject themselves to deportation. Duh.
Citation? Most who are actually caught at the border go through a civil detention center where they are not criminally prosecuted but go through a deportation process. The ones who are "catched and released" have a court summons where if they do not show up, they will then be subjected to criminal prosecution then. Shoe me the statistics of a ratio of people "never found again" vs deported? Again, we have been reaching multiple decade time span levels since 2011 for deportation arrests. Again, those who are "caught and released" are counted towards those arrest numbers since when you are "caught" you are arrested and issued a court summons.
The parents are not without blame. The journey is treacherous on these youngsters. I am glad they made it to the safety of our soil. I have a gut feeling they are being treated humanely.
What? This post makes no sense as a response to mine, which was not about immigration at all, but about the treatment of people in custody. You said I was being overly dramatic about my word choice, talking about child abuse, mass child separation, and (bonus) concentration camps, and I was responding to that. Nowhere did I imply anything about foreign invasions. It's like you hit the quote button on my post, but then replaced what I said with some fantasy of what you'd like me to have said, and responded to that.
Court ruled children can't be detained after x number of days. Only option to avoid separation is to release them into the US. That's the policy change, we refuse to do that because it incentivizes human trafficking of children.
Or deport them through a civil process which Obama did in dorves. When you criminally prosecute, that intelsef takes much longer and is much more expensive. Again, we have seen illegal border crossings at decades worth of time span lows since 2011.
You keep ignoring the fact that all of this BS you keep coming up with in order to justify the DNC narrative doesn't matter when talking about American citizens getting detained for literally any crime worthy of that situation though. Trying to hype something up as "cruel" just fails when you ignore the exact same situation when it comes to everyone else. Essentially treating illegal immigrants who broke the law the same as you would treat American citizens who broke the law is cruel according to you. That's just something you can't get past and it kills the narrative the DNC are trying to get you to push.
Judges actually in most cases don't imprison people for first time offenses for minor misdemeanors. Your method also is fiscally irresponsible as deportation through a civil proccess is signficantly cheaper than a zero tolerance policy with 100% criminal prosecution. Also there are millions of Americans who are commiting a federal misdemeanor(smoking weed) without being criminally prosecuted. You are just flat out wrong.
Morality has nothing to do with it and never did, there's nothing immoral about prosecuting people when they are caught committing crimes. It's all about forcing you to invent a new wedge issue for the midterms.
This actually is directed to senators from both parties... sending out tweets, no matter how well-minded, is not enough. You were elected to represent and lead... its time to do that.
you cant room big kids with little kids for obvious reasons. Every daycare shelter knows this. Flake is a moron.
I think it's more that he assumes his constituents are morons and are likely to fall for this cynical ploy by the DNC so he's trying to take away their wedge issue before it's used against him. It's kind of insulting to his constituents, but he might be right about them being morons.....I mean if they are anything like the bulk of those down here in the D&D then he's absolutely right about them.
Yea, I am sure Flake is criticizing the infants are not being caged with the other children... and not that toddlers are being taken away at all....
It(crossing at the border for the first/asylum at port of entry was not illegal) was treated as a misdemeanor before and only parents who were charged with a felony or known rapists murders drug dealers etc would get their children taken away. Trumps zero tolerance means every single family that shows up is separated whether seeking asylum legally or not. He's now using the kids as a bargaining chip so that dems agree to build his stupid wall.
ripping children away from family is NOT treating them humanely you can't go pass go until you stop that
LOL do you think that even when we are talking about it happening to American citizens detained for different crimes or is it only not treating illegal immigrants humanely when it happens to them?
