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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. fchowd0311

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    I wonder if Bobby slipped out of a vagina that was in a unfortunate country like Guatemala, would he have a high enough IQ to enter here with "merit" or would he stick it out in a shitty situation with no desire to move to a better place and I wonder if he would think that desire merits being labeled a "criminal"?
     
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    The kids are being treated humanely. This was actually a very telling segment by CNN. Both sides need to concede and get this worked out.
     
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    .....it's EXACTLY what would have happened if the mother was caught with any other serious violation of the law though, you are basically arguing that illegal immigrants should have more rights than American citizens and that treating illegal immigrants the same as you would treat American citizens is "CRUELTY!!!!!!"....and it's just hard to take you guys seriously when you push such brain dead narratives.

    Just do ANY thinking when it comes to this issue and there's no way a person with a fully functional brain could come up with the hot take that this is cruel or that it is wrong. Again, this is so obviously just a cynical attempt to create a wedge issue for stupid people. When faced with such a brain dead narrative, it's hard not to give a "womp womp" type response....especially when you know the people pushing the narrative are smart enough to know better and they are only doing it tn an attempt to score political points with the ignorant masses.
     
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    Asylum seekers are not detained
     
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    Ya, that has nothing to do with separating families. Illegal immigrants have been prosecuted. No one denies that happens.
     
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    Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.

    Schumer’s opposition to a legislative fix means there likely won’t be a quick end to the emotional images of immigrant children being separated from their families

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/393069-schumer-rejects-gop-proposal-to-address-border-crisis
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    You are making subjective claims about "serious violations" when illegally corssing isn't a violent offense. Judges in most situations that don't involve violent offenses don't jail the defendant or at least give an option to post bail.

    Crossing the border illegally because you want a better life isn't a violent offense. It isn't an offense that merits separating a parent from a child. Stop being a psychopath.
     
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    Well, obviously, their eggs are completely in this basket. This is their only hope in getting the momentum back before the midterms. There's no chance they'd allow any legislation to make it through before the next election.
     
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    Well that’s a stupendously bad argument.

    The vast majority of people disagree with you on this. Given your inability to process how they are looking at this and why they consider this cruel, maybe you should consider the possibility that you are the one lacking a fully functional brain.
     
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    The vast majority of ignorant people who don't know what the hell they are talking about and who are only reacting to an emotional argument without any context probably do disagree with me....those kinds of ignorant people are who the DNC is targeting.....and a lot are their base.

    The fact that the EXACT same thing would happen to an American citizen if they were detained and there was no next of kin to take the child in absolutely destroys your narrative, but I understand that this narrative is too important for your tribe for you to admit that. It really is okay.
     
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    Both sides? there is no other side trump can stop this immediately.
     
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    If they were detained for what? As I said, forcibly removing a child from her parents for a violation that does no harm to others is a cruel policy. It doesn’t make any difference to me if it’s an American or non-American.

    Are you suggesting this position is only held by people from a specific political tribe?
     
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    It doesn't matter what, if people are detained while they have their kid with them and there is no next of kin to take the kid, then that kid is taken from them while they are detained......you know, EXACTLY what is going on here. Those children are "forcibly removed" and literally no one thinks that it is cruel, but since the DNC needs a wedge issue to gain back some momentum that they've lost going into the midterms, they've told their people that it is "cruel" when the same thing that happens to everyone ends up happening to illegal immigrants when they are detained.

    If a person is arrested for money laundering, that's a violation of the law that does no one else any harm, but you wouldn't find anyone crying about them being separated from their children, for some reason the tears have only been told to flow when it happens to illegal immigrants.

    I'm flat out telling you that the ONLY reason this is being framed as an issue is because the DNC is worried about the midterms. You'll see some people making political moves in an effort to win over the ignorant people that this is targeting from both tribes, but it's incredibly transparent.
     
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    Why would you cross illegally if you are seeking asylum?

    The moral hazard being advocated here is remarkable. Permitting illegal entry as long as you bring children is a recipe for disaster (as we have seen with children being trafficked for that purpose).
     
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    Why because they are denying all asylum cases?

    Are you really that dunce?
     
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    Why would they deny all asylum cases?
     
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    Most cases of money laundering you are posted on bail and are not separated. Also money laundering in large quantities is a far more major and neferous crime than a desire to run away from a violent situation because of a situation of your birth to a much better place.

    How do you make these false equivalences in your head?

    There is a simple compromise here if you are heartless enough to not want any more asylum seekers. Detaining them with their children and then process them and deport them. At least they can be together during the whole process and not traimtkzw the kid .

    Why would you unnecessarily traumitize children when there are clear and obvious other means?
     
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    Because the Trump administration had explictly said that they want merit based immigration while all other forms of immigration are an "infestiation" and have stated that most asylum seekers are "faking it".
     
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