Will Christians Speak out Against Jeff Sessions misusing the bible to justify cruelty

What is "inhumane" about it? Isn't that exactly what is done to everyone when they catch your entire family breaking the law and throw you in jail pending prosecution? I know you are just a DNC propaganda bot, but your talking points are really lacking in the logic department. You need to seek an upgrade.

 

It also proves to me that none of yall give a **** enough to go to the US Customs and Immigration Services website and pull up the policy that the DOJ and Homeland Security is enforcing. You are suggesting that this is a new Trump policy...so instead of parroting the BS you heard on CNN this morning...show me.

But since you are too damn lazy...let me do your work for you...

Title 8 USC 1325 addresses the DOJ role in prosecution of illegal crossings into the US
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/atto...-zero-tolerance-policy-criminal-illegal-entry

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) amended 8 U.S.C. § 1325 to provide that an alien apprehended while entering or attempting to enter the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty.
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AG Sessions stated in his Memo in April 2018 that the US govt will enforce this law with ZERO tolerance for illegal crossings.

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In 1996, the IIRIRA added the amendment to the preexisting immigration law; While you may ask what the IIRIRA is...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_Immigration_Reform_and_Immigrant_Responsibility_Act_of_1996

signed into law by...Mr. Bill Clinton​

 

stop parroting fake news. Its harmful for true debate...

 

There's nothing new or cruel about separating criminals from their families pending prosecution. I'm not sure why you think that there is but if you put ANY thought into it, you'd realize that.

 

So criminals pending trial should be kept with their families then too right or are you suggesting that illegals have more rights than American citizens?

 

FYI you keep using the word criminal but nowhere is residing in the US illegally a crime. In fact, there's a supreme court case on this. Arizona v. US (which struck down the Arizona law that criminalized illegal immigration among other things) had a majority opinion that ruled that being in the US illegally wasn't a crime. That was a key part of the pre-emption of the Arizona law.

Your whole argument is that since illegal immigrants are "criminals" that things like separation are justified. However, there is no law criminalizing illegal immigration. There is a civil penalty that results in deportation and a bar on re-entry for up to 20 years. You seem to be sticking to this idea that illegal immigrants are "criminals" and as a result policies separating children from parents are ok since everyone is breaking US law. But again, there are no criminal penalties for illegal immigration. And the Supreme Court has ruled on this already. The case is settled.

Also no one is suggesting that illegals have more rights than citizens and legal immigrants. Legal immigrants and citizens have much broader constitutional protections. That's a large red herring.

 

Zero tolerance is new. It did not used to be the case that all apprehensions would be criminally prosecuted.

 

But see, here is the new bar for the bilge-water carriers: no news outlet, no long-form detailed, well-reported article can be considered legitimate. You, internet person, have to step by step, with no outside sources, prove to them whatever it is that the rest of the sentient world already agrees is reality. And if you cannot prove it, right here, on your own, that means whatever you and everyone else says must be false.

Must be a comfortable perch from which to argue -- gotta admit.

 

Oh we're going to play these games then? "Sure they flagrantly violate the law with their mere presence and that law breaking often leads to criminal acts such as driving without a license, driving without insurance, and identity theft, but these people aren't criminals....just law breakers"

That's brilliant, I'm glad you shared.

I know, you want to play word games here and I think that's absolutely adorable, but the distinctions you are trying to make don't make any difference whatsoever. When people are apprehended for violating the law, they are separated from their families. You are suggesting that when this group of people is apprehended for violating this law that they should have more rights than any other person apprehended for violating any other law.

 

That's not a word game. That's a fundamental legal difference. And it changes how someone is treated by law. Using your logic, a speeding ticket is equivalent to a murder conviction. Yes both involve the police and both involve a "violation" of some sort but legally they aren't in the same realm and the rights of an individual in each situation is very different. Getting a traffic ticket doesn't make one a criminal while getting a felony conviction most certainly does.

Now the correct argument you can make is that illegal immigrants have no rights because in truth they don't. The constitution affords them no rights even though they aren't criminals. But my point is that you are calling them criminals in an attempt to rationalize a policy of forced separation. If you support that policy, that's your choice but that has nothing to do with being a criminal because illegal immigrants flat out are not criminals. There is no law that criminalizes illegal immigration and the one attempt that we have (the Arizona law) was struck down.

There is no legal basis for separating families other than the fact that the executive branch has almost limitless authority to do whatever it wants with illegal immigrants. So at that point, you are stuck defending the decision as is, not because you want to hide behind the illusory notion that illegal immigrants are "criminals."

 

He knows this, but in his compulsion to support trump he ignores it. Heck, I posted the actually policy statement and the fox news video of sessions announcing it.

As it turns out, trump and his people have been planning this for a year...

Exclusive: Trump admin. plans expanded immigrant detention

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/exclusive-trump-admin-plans-expanded-immigrant-detention

 

Yes, you really are trying to play word games, you want to equate illegal immigration with a speeding ticket....sorry but no speeding ticket gets someone kicked out of the country and barred from re-entry. Illegal immigration is a more serious violation of the law than most.

That's an outright lie. If a family was arrested for all breaking the law, they would be separated into different facilities pending trial, in the instance of illegal immigrants it's pending deportation.

 

it's either a lie, or you don't know what you are talking about. If they arrest a family for all breaking the law, they aren't kept together in jail, they are separated. You either know that and are intentionally lying about it, or you simply don't know what you are talking about, which is it? There's no 3rd option.