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Will Christians Speak out Against Jeff Sessions misusing the bible to justify cruelty

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  1. conquistador#11

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    St. Theresa by Memorial. The message was of being united more than ever as attendances for the spanish mass service have slowly been declining. I couldn't make the post picnic we always have due to it was too hot and the astros were playing at 1pm. I had already missed 3 innings. We're still doing mass inside the gym due to renovations since Sept.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    This twitter thread lists all religious groups and leaders that have condemned trump's policy...

     
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    "...


    Like Evangelicals, Israelis are in denial about the political and moral consequences of Trump’s stormy tenure. So what if he is decimating the North Atlantic alliance, distancing democratic leaders like Angela Merkel, cozying up to murderous dictators like Kim Jong Un, dividing America, undermining democracy, eroding the rule of law, lying incessantly and possibly serving the interests of Vladimir Putin? So what if he is inspiring the rise of ethnocentric ultranationalist movements throughout Europe, many of which with a barely-hidden underbelly of anti-Semitism? So what if he is tarnishing America’s image abroad and obliterating its historic role as a beacon of democracy? Trump is one of our own, and that’s all that’s important."

    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pr...el-s-trumpmania-he-s-one-of-our-own-1.6173853
     
  4. sugrlndkid

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    There is such a massive misinformation campaign about what is actually happening at the border. People that lawfully approach checkpoints and claim asylum arent 'separated' from their families. Its the people that intentionally sneak into the country at illegal crossing points who are arrested for committing a crime. I am really enjoying this pseudo-rage by people on the left...who give ZERO ***** for people that are lawfully in this nation. Guess this is the 'new DACA' issue for the left...bunch of hypocrites yall are.
    - Sincerely ...an Immigrant




     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    It's a pretty obvious political tactic given that they are worried about falling on their face during the midterms. They went from a blue wave to what is looking like at best a blue splash so they think this BS will help them get back on track. It's obvious given how much the issue is being pushed by our resident DNC propaganda bot.

    Honestly I think this is going to backfire
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    I totally understand that. (Though I have heard that some people are also arrested at ports of entry, but I'm not sure whether to believe that; the other thing I've heard about ports of entry is that they just turn you away and don't let you apply for asylum, which is why migrants have adopted the process of crossing elsewhere and then surrendering.) If you think my anger is misdirected because I assume all these people are being scooped up on the bridge in Brownsville, you're wrong. I'm thinking about the families that swam across the river and got picked up by border security. If they have a young child with them that you house in a concentration camp because all the family they have is in jail, its child abuse. Doesn't matter how they got there.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I agree that what their families are doing to them is child abuse, which is just another crime committed by that family, but it's up to their home nation to put those children in foster homes once they get back, not ours.
     
  8. sugrlndkid

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    These words right here...thats just not even right..JV and I have a ton of respect for your posts.

    These incredibly poor individuals are fleeing their nations seeking refuge at the US borders...why would people that supposedly HATE the US or many that get word that the bad people from the US govt will lock you in a 2 by 6 cell...and gas you...then shift your bones into a hole in a ground...because that is what happened in Nazi Germany.

    Instead many of these people have a bed, food 3 times a day, place to eat shower, ****, with AC...get out of here for even suggesting that our actions defending our border is even comparable to concentration camps in Nazi Germany.

    Finally, If you really believe that giving the finger to American sovereignty and people however destitute they may be have the right to just cross a 'river' and get picked up by border patrol earn sympathy from me, you are absolutely wrong! Come to the nation lawfully...instead of willfully breaking it.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Nobody is saying the U.S. should not protect its border. Nobody is saying that people who try and cross illegally should be allowed in the nation.

    None of that excuses this new policy by the Trump administration. It is a policy that could end today if the Trump administration chose to end it.
     
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    There have been a lot of concentration camps in human history. What you're referencing are the Nazi death camps. Nazis also ran camps that were not designed for exterminating people. My grandfather, as a soldier in the French army spent time in a concentration camp made for French soldiers. The US has had concentration camps, most famously for Japanese Americans during WWII. The Japanese Americans had a place to sleep and had food to eat. Doesn't make it less of a concentration camp. So, I don't think I'm going to stop using that term.

    As for sympathy, I'm only suggesting you have sympathy for the children. And, maybe you could even put an age on it -- say, under 13 or something -- if you want to be hard-hearted to the teenagers. For young children, being forcibly separated from parents is a big deal that can cause lasting damage. We can discuss what to do with the border jumpers after we make sure the children are okay.
     
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    Perhaps I am willfully ignorant...please enlighten me about what this "new policy' is that the Trump administration has enacted? Show the me the policy directly from the USCIS website or a US govt website.
     
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    Perhaps.
     
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    Yes, you are willfully ignorant. All the time you have spent on this thread defending a policy you don't know anything about could have been spent googling it if you were actually interested in learning about it.
     
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    Is the US justice department sufficient?

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-r...nload?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

    Here's sessions announcing it (and specifically mentioning separating children):
     
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    that is the fcking point imbecile...prove to me that the administration isnt enforcing a policy created during the Clinton era...and was actively used during the Bush and Obama presidency...
     
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    It's not my job to solve your willful ignorance. You can do that yourself if you were truly interested. The fact that it's willful demonstrates that you want to be stupid. That's a choice you're welcome to make and it's not everyone else's job to do basic google homework for people who want to be stupid.
     
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    And you purposely deny what people are objecting to... the inhumane policy of separating children from their parents and locking them up in cages. A policy every Democrat senator has condemns. Every. Single. One. A policy that many religious groups and leaders have condemned. And really, most people with any sense of human decency.
     

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