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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Get used to it. It's only a taste of MAGA means.
     
  2. adoo

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    The Driving Force Behind Trump's Family Separation Policy
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    This scumbag, LA suburbia born & bred, Duke educated, was the driving force behind President Trump’s decision to enforce the family separation policy at U.S. borders.

    After border numbers spiked in April, he was instrumental in convincing Trump to resort to
    the “nuclear option” of family separation now so widely being condemned as inhumane
    Unlike Trump, who has publicly claimed to hate the practice, Miller said that it was a “simple decision.”
     
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    Your little chart here contains 4 countries that the US actively destabilized during the Cold War. You don't think that has lasting effects?
     
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  4. B-Bob

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    Even if Miller knew any history, I doubt it would change his disgusting outlook on non-white people. He probably welcomes this obvious comparison.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Children of parents who have been tried and convicted, sure. The blame belongs squarely on those who instituted this cruel and unjust punishment.

    Nothing about it is in anyway just.

    Two questions:
    1. How is doing that to children a just punishment?
    2. What good comes from that?
     
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    Miller kind of looks like he threw 6 pick sixes in a game. Fiiiire him!
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    This is what happened to Miller.

    As a youth, he was sensitive and socially awkward. He was smarter than most of the kids in his class in elementary school and was aware of the difference. He didn't understand why that didn't make him more popular. As he became more upset and envious to see others who he felt were not as smart as he was gain friends, and social status while he didn't, bitterness began to set in fairly early.

    The more bitter Miller became, the more he lashed out at others. The only thing he had to lash out at others was about him being "smarter" than the others. This served to further alienate him and also gave himself a grossly inflated view of his own intelligence. This pattern was a death spiral for him, and he continued the same pattern with more and more intense results as he got to high school.

    His failure with people he that he hoped would make a love connection with him, caused his bitterness to increase. His misery found a home with people who lashed out at those who definitely had less like immigrants and other minorities. This gave him drive to wind up connected with political fringe folks who ended up taking power in 2016.

    Now he believes that by doing this "tough" stance, he's doing the right thing for this nation. He scoffs at those who he sees as weak because they would be unwilling to take the same steps he has taken.

    A lifetime of bitterness and rejection has left him a bitter person whose heart has shriveled to the extent that he is barely human at this stage.
     
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    Amazing psychological evaluations by completely unqualified, highly biased, bitter people whose political ideologies are proven losers come election time.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    ... or the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    What’s a Sandista? Is iit different than a Sandinista?
     
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    Every single one of those homicide victims was forcibly separated from their families. Permanently. Forever.

    This is why every single potential method of deterrence for illegal invasion of our country is necessary. You bleeding heart anti-american liberals make me sick to my stomach. You are scum.


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    The liberals got you irked.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    Check yourself, bro. LOL. Don't get triggered. We are always fellow citizens, so give a fist bump and let's try to hash it out.

    As for your posted stats, all data shows that illegal immigrants are much less likely to commit violent crimes than Americans, so we can't go that route, or we'd all be in detention centers, LOL. (Jade Helm!)

    Take it easy and don't assume so many bad things about your neighbors. Not good!
     
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    coming from someone that wanted to shoot all ms-13 members without questions asked, before it was even cool to do so, I think some are a little paranoid.

    If those stats are accurate, that's 167 homicides from immigrants yearly compared to the average homicides in texas of 1,500 a year. So out of 11,250 homicides give or take in that same time span..... 1,351 are by immigrants. around 12% of the killings. Some one asked the following question in reverse so I will ask it, how many white guys do you know that were killed by the ms-13?

    My reasons for eradicating those gangs was because they extort innocent abuelitas and kids in the latin communities.
    We really need advanced analytics for this. I need to know white on white homicides per year to see if the fear is worth the hype.
     
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    You guys are conflating immigrants with illegal immigrants. Thats 1,351 homicides committed by illegal immigrants, just in Texas, since 2011. That is a staggering amount no matter how you try to downplay it. Even one is too many. We can't prevent murders committed by US citizens and legal residents, but we damn sure could prevent murders committed by illegal aliens who have absolutely no right to be here.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the crime rates among legal immigrants are lower than the American born population. By virtue of going through the process and coming here legally, they have already shown a propensity for obeying the law.

    Conversely, illegal immigrants, by nature of illegally and willfully invading this country, have already shown a propensity for disregarding the law.
     
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    You aren't aware of actual statistics, are you? Illegal immigrants commit fewer violent crimes than the general populace.


    It doesn't increase drug and alcohol problems.

    One of the studies is from the conservative Cato Institute.

    Yes, there are examples of illegal immigrants committing a horrible crime, but that isn't the normal way of things with illegal immigrants.

    But even if your incorrect and unreal ideas about illegal immigrants were actually true, that still wouldn't excuse the practice of taking away these children from their families.

    Please explain how the practice is just or how it makes us a better nation in any possible way.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    What if I told you that this was a stupid and off-target meme? If one person goes to jail, the children remain with the other parent or other family members. The children are not separated from everyone in their family.

    Can we please stop acting like the case is the same for the children of every criminal. It isn't anywhere near the same.
     
  19. Senator

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    As an adult, you are accountable for your actions.

    I cannot buy into the whole we came here illegally, intentionally had as many kids as possible, and now are victims of living in a lawful society. Being alive doesn't give you free reign to keep breeding and hoping for the best. It makes you stupid and bad things happen when you make stupid decisions.

    You either have laws or you dont, halfway committing leads to an incredibly fractured society where you have to pick a polarizing side and refuse to see a middle ground.

    Right now we need to take emotion out of the equation and put real money into studying the economic value of illegal chain babies - what they are capable of, and instead of separating families, making it impossible to gain citizenship unless you apply legally or have us citizen parents. It's humane , sensible and deters the constant desperation from overpopulated regions that cannot provide opportunities.
     
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