DEEP STATE CRISIS: FBI agents text that they won't let Trump win

I haven't run across these as of yet (although its 500 pages...I might have missed them). Care to quote them with page number attached?

Well, firstly, action IS being taken against Manafort and the man IS in jail at the moment. People are also talking about the Manafort situation here in this very bulletin board and in the national media. It's not like its being brushed aside. I don't understand why you feel this subject is being ignored?

(....speaking of brushed aside...)

Secondly, no similar action has been taken (yet) against any of the lying former leadership of the FBI. We have scathing IG reports produced on Comey, McCabe, and Strzok...the LEADERSHIP of the investigative unit that appears to have given Clinton every benefit of the doubt while being quoted as doing whatever it takes to "Stop Trump". Christ, Strzok still has a job with the FBI...the IG report was produced just over 24 hours ago and you're confused why some folks are angrily talking about this today? Really?

Third, its not disputable that this country is pretty much split down the middle....conservative vs. liberal. Despite the fact you and many other left leaning folks here find the FBI findings to be "no big deal" I ASSURE you among the half of the country you don't align with it is a VERY big deal.

 

I don't know the page number but included in this are some quotes from the texts. It is more balanced than the propaganda put out by Trump's team.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...cipal-loyalty-is-to-the-bureau-itself/552686/

So, if it is a disservice to try and use the texts of two employees as proof of FBI bias. The texts mainly show a loyalty to the FBI, and bash folks on the left and right, Hillary, and Donald. They bash Eric Holder and plenty of other Democrats.

 

As I thought, IG investigators did interview the people that sent the text messages:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...trumpworld-is-spinning-the-fbi-report/562922/

 

With all due respect to "The Atlantic" and you, I prefer to see the actual quotes in the report the way the IG report presents them, not the way The Atlantic or its author decides to translate it. If you manage to find them in the IG report, feel free to hit me up again with them.

 

That's not actually true, the IG said that they couldn't find any evidence that their obvious bias actually impacted the case....that doesn't mean that their bias didn't impact the case, it just means that it can't be definitively proven. The IG at one point repeats the same flawed understanding of the law that was pushed by Comey's team, that intent had to be proven for a crime to have been committed, so I feel like the IG was being fairly kind.

 

Yes. I believe I made that clear to you in my post above yours. This is not a new revelation.

Oh well then everything is all explained then! I'm sure Paul Manafort also proclaims his innocence as well. Lets just take everyone's word for it right?

No, that's not what they concluded. They concluded they found no DOCUMENTARY or TESTIMONIAL evidence that directly exposed political bias. They made NO conclusion that bias didn't affect the investigation...merely that they found no "smoking gun" but lots of "smoke".

 

"Breitbarter"

 

These FBI agents should be hailed as heroes

Stopping someone who is trying to use the constitution as toilet paper is of the utmost importance.

 

nm

 

The quotes are actual quotes from the actual text messages. It doesn't get more primary source than that. Atlantic used actual quotes from the texts the same as the IG did. It's just that perhaps you are only focusing on texts that paint the narrative that you want them to.

 

Again, this is from someone who is a conservative talk show host and former gop congressman that supported trump...

 

No, you're giving quotes from an article referring back to the IG report. The actual, primary source is the IG report itself. That's why...for the 3rd time...I'm asking you to produce a page number. Its really a simple request.

 

The IG report didn't rely on quotes from the texts?

If the information the IG report is relying on is actual texts, then the texts are the primary source and not the IG report.

Either way, I think it is equally, if not more valid to look at the actual texts.

 

Yes, influence an election the way Russia did. Except Russia won't pay any price and instead actually gets rewards

 

We do not ... though it is interesting to read about the nonsense that is bouncing around in the right wing echo chamber.

You know if you look at the very top of the FBI org chart you will find a world class lier (who shows wild political and personal bias in everything he does). I wonder if your deep concerns wrt to lying in the top ranks of the FBI extends to him as well. I suspect not.

 

Anyone who is a career civil servant has periods of employment where the elected governing administration is/was abhorrent to their personal political beliefs. You live with it, you b**** about it, but you continue doing your job.

 

Page 438 of the IG report:

Page 497 of the IG report

Also page 497 of the IG report

I would think the last one would bother even someone like you as this directly influenced the timing of the Clinton Emails found on Weiner's laptop. If Strzok hadn't of sat on this info in September (probably in an effort to conceal their existence) the bombshell Comey announcement in late October wouldn't have happened...at least not 1 week before the election.

As I stated, a SCATHING indictment of all 3 of these men. Two have been fired. One has been frog marched out of the FBI while somehow still employed there.

[QUOTE="No Worries, post: 11834209, member: 584"You know if you look at the very top of the FBI org chart you will find a world class lier (who shows wild political and personal bias in everything he does). I wonder if your deep concerns wrt to lying in the top ranks of the FBI extends to him as well. I suspect not.[/QUOTE]

The very top of the FBI org chart is FBI Director Chris Wray. Not sure what your problem is with him, but maybe you'll respond here?

 

Is that page where the conclusion is? Because the conclusion appears to be not so scathing.

Try again. Trump is Wray's boss. Trump fired McCabe and Comey. Least there be any doubt.

 

another trump conspiracy put to rest... have to look for another hat...