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ICE focusing on soft targets? Go ICE!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    the only things freely moving across the border a wall needs to be is sex slaves and drugs. Houston is now number 1 in sex industry.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    he is a convicted wife beater and citizen of mexico.
     
  3. Amiga

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    Legal resident living in us with a green card.

    So you agree that he should be deported for a misdemeanor committed 18 years ago? Do you think all legal residents that has a past misdemeanor conviction should be deported?

    Garcia said her father has a conviction for a misdemeanor stemming from a domestic violence dispute with her mother that occurred 18 years ago. Her father completed his sentence for that conviction, which was anger management classes and reporting to probation, she said.”
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Dubious claim of him being legal considering that will shortly be reviewed by a judge. A permanent resident needs to renew that once per 10 years at a very high fee of around 500 bucks. If he has been here for 50 years, how long has he been here legally? why never apply for citizenship? Ineligible?

    You think beating his wife is not a "serious criminal conviction"? To me it is pretty serious. Do we need more wife beaters in the USA or do we currently have enough? This is a person unable to own a firearm.
     
  5. Amiga

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    I think deportation is harsh and should be reserved for serious crimes, repeated crimes, and done in a timely manner.

    This was 18 years ago and since we don't know the details of the case, we can only go by the judgement. He served a minor sentence (anger management and probation) by our court system so that indicate a minor offense.

    Guess work as to why he didn't have citizenship (might be in process, might be he didn't apply, might be he applied but failed?). The article said he's a legal resident and is comfortable living here which imply he has a green card. Since the crime was 18 years ago, it indicated the most recent green card was allowed with his past conviction. The 18 years is important here because of that. If his conviction was deem serious enough, he should not have been allowed to renew his green card.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    Domestic violence is a serious crime. According to the article, he is a repeat offender, so he has already met your conditions.

    "Databases reveal that Mr. Garcia has past criminal convictions that make him amenable to removal from the United States,” ICE said in a statement to The Mercury News.

    Agree to disagree on beating women being a minor offense but many aspects of the law don't see it that way. He is a prohibited person and would be unable to own a firearm.
    The article fallaciously says that but the fact is his lawful status will be determined by the EOIR.

    "Mr. Garcia is currently in ICE custody pending removal proceedings, where an immigration judge with the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) will determine whether or not he has a lawful basis to remain in the United States"

    This article is extremely one sided and biased to produce outrage. Massive holes in the story. Does he have a current permanent residency card? I highly doubt it. How many other convictions? Many questions but deporting wife beaters who never bothered or were ineligible due to criminality for citizenship is fine with me. This was a guy who came here illegally, was granted amnesty, continued to repeatedly break the law, probably never renewed his green card, and is now being reviewed for removal.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Silver lining: we're lucky to have ICE around so that we can fingerprint all of the racists and sociopaths who work there.
     
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    I see that you have no details of the case, but you know what happen. Since you like to assume and put words in my mouth, see ya.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We all knew it's really about Making America White Again. MAWA
     
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    legal! you forgot legal!
     
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    There has to be a better option than placing young girls and boys in migrant concentration camps.
     
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    There is, having a secure enough border to where they can't get in to begin with.
     
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    Sadly there really isn’t at this point.

    When a wall is built the children will be set on fire and catapulted over the wall back to Mexico to send a message.

    Until such time as the wall is completed by the military, the cattle will be sorted and those capable of work will be sent to mine coal or their tiny hands will be used to gauge out the eyes of intellectuals that work at secondary education institutions that don’t rhyme with Boral Doberts.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Everything I stated was in the article and I mentioned there are massive holes in the story. I said I doubt he has a current permanent resident card. I base that on the story just mentioning he is "legal".

    I never put any words in your mouth. I am hoping defending the beating a woman as a minor crime became too distasteful for you.

    You have no evidence he renewed his permanent resident card but are basing the seriousness of the crime on that here. Unlike a visa, you are not immediately out of lawful status with an expired permanent resident card. Sitting in long lines at uscis, going back multiple times for biometrics, and paying thousands of dollars is for us suckers who follow laws. Not this guy.
     
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    Update on this case.




    Nearly three weeks after immigration agents arrested a lawful permanent resident outside his Arleta home, his case has been closed and he was released from custody Friday night.

    Jose Luis Garcia’s case gained national attention after he was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement on June 10 during a three-day operation targeting public safety threats in the L.A. area. The 62-year-old has been a lawful permanent resident since 1988 and the last conviction on his record was a misdemeanor domestic violence charge from 2001.

    Garcia’s immigration lawyer, Mackenzie Mackins, spoke with the prosecutor, before the case went before a judge on Friday. On Friday afternoon, Mackins said, “we won and he will be released without bond” and his case is now closed.
     
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    You would think we had learned this with the Japanese internment, but nope.
     
  17. Senator

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    Of course, this guy is an illegal and has many kids. That is the motivating factor and should be why us citizens have to be born to US citizens. It sends a message that reduces the need for illegal activity, like deporting all illegals.

    These isolated stories don't change the big picture of being lax with illegals when you are trying to implement a system for legal citizens. Address that first before garnering sympathy from very specific cases that are not the majority.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    scumbag
     
  19. Senator

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    That is how legal migrants, many of whom wait in a queue for years, would describe these illegals exploiting the system they honestly deal with. It hurts legal immigrants who have so much to contribute. Your hatred makes the backlash even worse.
     
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  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    There are millions of less illegal immigrants here and far far less coming into this country. America is no longer the land of opportunity for most. And there is no crack down on illegals from Europe - in fact the word illegal is synonymous with brown people even though there are plenty of white illegal immigrants.

    Your disguised racism is what is horrible to witness.
     

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