Rumor: Chris Paul doesn’t plan on taking paycut for Rockets

Please CP3, I beg you to take the minimum!!! Morey was desperate to pay Ryno Anderson 20 million a year before he got you.

 

Cp3 is already recruiting Lebron to THE ROCKETS. He will do what is fair and reasonable to help build a team that can beat GS. Unlike many teams around the league the rockets take care of their stars post retirement. Lebron, Harden, CP3 win a title
They have positions with this team for life. Also this city will make up any lost salary with marketing deals.

 

Just being honest, I am usually and have been right just look back at my posts. I was even right about MDA sitting guys before the playoffs or someone's gonna get injured I got shouted down with that too. If we had a healthy Luc we would have been much stronger in the playoffs but whatever. You guys don't see things until they actually happen.

 

Paul George, even as a Pacer, has never been a guy to create for others. He is an elite scorer and a very good perimeter defender. The Rockets, outside of James Harden and Eric Gordon at times, have no one else on the roster capable of creating their own shot. Chris Paul gives them a second playmaker to create for others and lessen Harden's overall load. Having that second playmaker and facilitator was a huge reason they were 42-3 in the regular season and 53-7 overall in games Harden, CP3 and Capela all played, and 5-3 against the Warriors. From a pure basketball standpoint, Chris Paul is a better fit for the Rockets than Paul George and its not close.

Also, the Rockets went 15-9 in the 24 games CP3 missed during the regular season. At that pace, they would've won 51 games without CP3 this year, and they won 65. That's a 14 game difference. So, please tell me again that CP3 didn't help elevate the team to a level they were not at the year before.

The Rockets would obviously still be a good team with Paul George instead of CP3, but they would not be as good as they were this year. And it's going to cost you Eric Gordon to get George in a sign and trade, which definitely means the Rockets would take a major step back next year.

 

It's crazy to me that this even has to be said.

 

What are you always super right about? Saying rockets could get injured if they play basketball doesnt exactly make you nostradamus.

I just think its hilarious how you made a post saying you are always right about everything then later on in the post went on to accuse other posters about being worse than espn guys about acting as if they know everything.

Chill and stop being so condescending.

 

Who said he had to create for us to be successful, THE IDEA THAT WE WOULDN'T BE AS SUCCESSFUL IS ALSO NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST ASSUME. A healthy Paul George for an entire season may make us more successful than an ailing Chris Paul for part of a season. In your head I think you are thinking of Chris Paul being super healthy next year and taking us to the promised land. That doesn't necessarily happen. More than likely as his past he may be injured for part or the entire season and playoffs. I said we would still be successful with Paul Geaorge which you now seem to agree with all of a sudden.

Chris Paul at MAX is not the end all be all of everything and whenever you reply to me you actually give me facts that are irrelevant to what I said prior. THE ROCKETS WERE THIRD IN THE LEAGUE LAST YEAR WITHOUT CHRIS PAUL. We made it to the second round, that suggests that with a healthy PG (Not that Im specifically saying that PG be the only star or piece we add) That we can still be very successful. We should not sacrifice our future for an injury prone Chris Paul who is only getting older. Would I like to have him back? sure but does he have to come back at MAX for the Rockets to be a contender NO.

BTW, The same people agreeing with you are the same people likely who shouted me down, when I said we would be much better without Mchale. I got called every name in the book lolThe same people who flamed me for saying that Ariza is an overall better pick up than Chandler Parsons when Chandler got picked up by the Mavs. Same people who laughed when I said we should adopt MDA's system long before Mchale was even fired. I even suggested that Harden should be used as a pg and we should surround him with above average shooters.

My point in this response is to say that you guys tend to look at things too narrowly. You put everyone or everything into a box and you don't see what could happen or how some one could be better playing with a different person. Harden is one of those people who can improve the talent around him just by being there. Paul George would likely be the best version of himself, he could even play power forward and run pick and roll with Harden. You are also acting as if we can find a back up point guard who could play with George while Harden is sitting. CHRIS PAUL is not the only option.

 

They will make up the difference in endorsements, and have the power to dethrone a team they all despise, so why not? More money in their overflowing pockets of millions is just greed.

 

That is the stuff you could entice role players with.

Either one of Harden, Paul or the best Player alive dun need that.

They could be without another team for 2 years, and Adidas, Nike or whoever is paying them unconscious money. And not mention the Companies in the World.

 

The talent of PG is light years behind the talent of CP3, and that's the hard truth.

 

Yes, he does have to come back for us to be a contender.

Unless you replace him with Lebron, we take a massive step backwards.

 

He’s right guys. He isn’t saying CP3 sucks, but an injured CP3 does suck vs. PG

 

I really don’t care what others here think, or what you think either. I’ve been a member of the board a long time and my posts speak for themselves.

For the Rockets this offseason, Chris Paul is the only option that makes sense. Let me repeat: The Rockets can retain all of their free agents as long as Tillman is ok with paying the Luxury Tax. However, even if they renounce CP3’s cap hold, they cannot create enough cap space to offer George or LeBron a max contract. Therefore, it would require a sign and trade. In that sign and trade, either Capela or Eric Gordon would have to be included for salary matching, even if Morey found a home for Ryan Anderson. CP3 plus Capela and Gordon and Ariza, etc is better than Paul George and one of Capela or Gordon, and it’s not close.

Furthermore, CP3 is what elevated this team from a really good team, to a team that should have beat the Warriors. Being able to have an elite facilitator on the floor for 48 minutes helped the Rockets’ offense and role players thrive at near historical levels. He also provided leadership, and someone that could hold Harden accountable.

I’m not saying Paul George is a bad player, but he is not a playmaker. So you have the same kind of team that got knocked out by the Spurs in the 2nd round. One with James Harden as the primary/only ballhandler in the playoffs, which has proven to be an issue time and time again. Harden is a good playmaker, but he has a tendency to be careless with the ball, especially when defenses ramp up their intensity and focus on stopping him in the playoffs. Also, you will have to play Harden more minutes on such a team, because they have no other competent point guard. It only gets worse if Gordon is part of the trade for PG13, too. Plus, that team had Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams on it, the one next year would not have either, and the Rockets don’t have cap flexibility to go get players of their caliber.

Finally, the Rockets future is now. The only key role player under 30 is Clint Capela. They have a 2-3 year window to win a championship with this group, and perhaps even shorter. Worrying about what will happen 4-5 years from now doesn’t make sense in their situation.

 

I didn’t know a strained hamstring was a career threatening injury. Also, everyone knows CP3 is injury prone, but it doesn’t change the fact he’s the best choice for the Rockets and a gamble they have to take if they want a shot at winning the title next season.

CP3 + Capela + Gordon + Ariza, etc is better by a lot than George + either Capela or Gordon (one would have to be traded for him).

 

First of all you keep ignoring the facts, chris paul is injury prone and you are also ignoring the fact that this year the Rockets were still number 1 seed without Chris Paul, when he was injured, they got there and stayed there without him. Thats mostly due to defense not Chris Paul who makes us stronger but is not the sole reason why we were so successful in the regular season. For us to be successful in the post season Harden needs someone healthy who can score the Rockets mostly moved to one on one ball in the playoffs and Paul George can certainly do that. AGAIN WE DO NOT NEED CHRIS PAUL TO BE CONTENDERS. We simply need another all star scorer who can get buckets and spell Harden. Saying that the only way we are contenders is to give an aging injured Chris Paul max is beyond ridiculous and it sells the entire team and organization short. The Rockets won 55 games with just James harden, add the fact that Chris Paul was missing part of the year and if you add healthy Paul George for a whole year you are likely to get almost the same amount of wins (65), which means your earlier statement that we would be much worse without Chris Paul is simply not true. You keep repeating that Chris Paul is a playmaker as if we can just get a point guard to run with George and Gordon while Harden sits which would makes us just as potent. The problem here is being able to identify what makes the Rockets strong. The clear evidence from nearly three months of chris paul being out and us still being number 1 during that stretch is that we will still be contenders through our defense and having three guys who can get their own shot.

 

Frankly put... not my money so i dont care. He doesnt need to take a cut.

BUTTTTT.... at age 33 and injury history... I just hope the Rockets do not give him the full 5 years. I am hoping something like a 3+1 team option or partial guarantee at the MAX.

Not a 4-5 year deal str8 up.... I do not care about Tillman's pockets... i ONLY care about the Rockets well being.

CP3 taking a pay cut or not does not have anything to the Rockets ability to acquire a Superstar.

 

They suck

 

You are the one that has failed to post any facts in this thread, other than repeating the ROCKETS WERE THIRD IN THE WEST WITHOUT CP3 THE YEAR BEFORE.

I already posted the Rockets record in the regular season without CP3 this year: 15-9. If you project that out over 82 games, they finish 51-31. That’s nowhere near good enough to get the top seed in the West. The second seeded Warriors had 58 wins for example.

Furthermore, the team last year had Lou Williams and Patrick Beverly, two starting quality backcourt players. Next year’s team wouldn’t as the Rockets do not have the cap space to sign players of their caliber and they were traded to get CP3.

Then consider it takes a trade to get Paul George from OKC, as the Rockets don’t have the cap space. The deal would take either Capela or Gordon to get done. So you lose another key piece from this year’s team and the team that finished third in the west last season.

CP3 + Capela + Gordon + Ariza, etc is > PG13 + either Capela or Gordon + Ariza. And that’s what the outcome would be if you swapped CP3 for George.

The best course of action for the Rockets is to re-sign CP3, and either sign and trade for LeBron/George, or bring back the rest of the core (Capela, Ariza, etc) and make a minor addition or two.

Swapping CP3 for George messes with the chemistry of a 65 win team that took Golden State to 7 games for no benefit, and makes the roster worse. Also, please tell me how Paul George is going to get Tucker, Ariza, Luc, and Capela easy looks when he’s on the floor instead of Harden. That’s not his game and will never be his game.

 

No, they don’t. They have their flaws for sure, but both are valuable role players, especially against Golden State. Ariza for his defense and Gordon for his offense.

 

Name a point guard that the Rockets can get with the MLE, veteran’s minimum or any other exception to replace CP3. Also, Gordon is gone in a deal for George unless you would rather lose Capela, so odds are you are removing two guys that can create for others. Swapping Paul George for CP3 makes all the Rockets role players worse, because he won’t get them easy looks like CP3 did.