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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. peleincubus

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    I do not understand how (mostly not all) liberals think that H Clinton was innocent, while (mostly not all) conservatives thought she was guilty.

    The opposite holds true for this investigation. Liberals think something happened and want the investigation to come to a conclusion to see. While conservatives want to shut it down. etc.

    It just gets freaking old. People on their damn teams. Resulting in zero ability to be subjective. It is actually disgusting.
     
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  2. CometsWin

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    Innocent and guilty of what? We had clowns on this site pushing stories saying Clinton was giving uranium to the Russians, was running a child sex ring out of a pizzeria, and had a DNC staffer murdered. There's really no comparison between Clinton and Trump. Your post is intellectually lazy.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    Perhaps lazy. 100% tired for sure.

    I was referring to server at home.
     
  4. CometsWin

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    If they think she's guilty then indict her or shut up about it. This is just the Trump political playbook at work. It's better to lie, whine, b****, and moan in the press than to get stuck in court with a judge that isn't a moronic conspiracy theorist who will rule on the law. Jeff Sessions, Republican, is the Attorney General and Christopher Wray, Republican, is the directory of the FBI. What's the delay?
     
  5. Amiga

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    Likely Rudy, just like he did with the supposedly Mueller questions to Trump. He confirmed the content and said the legal strategy remains in effect. They are setting the stage for the president to be above the law. You might want to consider that a bit as an American.
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    To be clear... the trump legal team to Mueller just admitted that trump obstructed justice and then he and his people lied to the American people about it.

     
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    Another trump defense... they can't be expected to tell the truth with a singular story... their memory keep changing, and that's why trump can't testify... his memory apparently is the worst of all.

     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    And yet... trump says he has "one of the great memories of all time":

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gold-star-great-memory-2017-10
     
  9. B-Bob

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    Even as a republican, which seems to... trump... being an American in these strange times.
     
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    so many parallels...

     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    Hopefully trump and rudy don't waste too much time on the "trump can pardon himself" defense..


     
  12. B-Bob

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    You know, I took an open mind to all the Clinton stuff, and on H dog, I came up w the same conclusions as Congress. No real prosecutable crimes of any kind. Way too tied to big money? Yes. Literally corrupt? Technically no, not in the data. Criminally negligent? Judgment call on private server.

    My guilt is turning a blind eye to B Clinton's female accusers back in the day. Dude crossed some lines, but that was my team so I ignored those women in the 1990s.

    H Dog is guilty of: wearing ambition on her sleeve when America wasn't ready for that; a deep lack of charisma; and being an old school "smoky room deal" politician and all that comes w that inside the DNC.

    Yes, I realize this post will send some posters into frothing fits of Benghazi!1!! but so be it. Of our dozens of embassy attacks, one Secretary of State is not more guilty of anything than all the others. It just makes no sense and is obviously partisan exploitation of a tragedy. Even then, she attended hearings and faced the fire. Never claimed the law was beneath her. So there's more false equivalence for you.
     
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    You are correct that it could be a leak from someone on the Meuller team. It could also have been someone from Trump's legal team since they've leaked things before. But if it was a leak by Mueller's team, it is hardly a sieve. They've leaked almost nothing so far. Trump's team, in contrast, has leaked numerous things.
    The investigation also has already gotten indictments and pleas of guilt to crimes. It's way ahead of where other investigations like Watergate were at the time.

    Your factual inaccuracies are very strange. Collusion between his campaign and Russia already has a ton of evidence that has been released.

    You turning a blind eye to the mountain of evidence that supports the idea that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia and other foreign governments doesn't make it go away to anyone else who cares to actually play attention.
     
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    There have been mountains of evidence showing collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. So there is no point denying that anymore.

    The president can fire anyone he wants for almost any reason he would like. But he can't fire people to keep them from uncovering crimes he committed. That's obstruction of justice.

    You putting a false timeline on the investigation is your own issue and not one of the investigation's. The investigation has already found and uncovered more than other special investigations in the same period of time. It is almost ahead of schedule.
     
  17. Aceshigh7

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    Please provide one example of evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. I'll wait.

    And don't try to hold up the Trump Tower meeting as an example. A meeting with someone who was not claiming or purporting to be acting as an agent of the Russian government, who obtained the meeting by lying about the content (claiming to have dirt on HRC) and under false pretences when she only wanted to discuss adoptions, is not collusion in any way, shape, or form. In fact, given that she was issued a special visa by Lorretta Lynch's justice department and appeared in the audience of congressional hearings that same month, and was also apparently present in John McStain's office on the hill at some point during her time in the US, it could appear to some to be an entrapment scheme by anti-Trump elements in the Obama administration.

    So, like I said, I'm waiting for any shred of evidence of Trump collusion with Russia. Tell me you've got something. Anything. Thanks.
     
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  18. FranchiseBlade

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    It's been provided before but no problem.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_campaign–Russian_meetings

    So Trump's campaign met with officials of the Russian government in an effort to get dirt on their political opponent. That is collusion.

    From the same article

    Here's more detail that exemplifies collusion.
    There's more, but that's enough for now. I hope you didn't have to wait too long.
     
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    Mountains I say!
     
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