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Trump saving Chinese Tech Company that U.S. deems National Security Threat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, May 13, 2018.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Trump in his ever going battle to save jobs from those evil unfair Chinese, has decided to save Chinese jobs - by reversing US sanctions and allowing tech to go to ZTE - a company who has been known to supply N. Korea and Iran illegally as well has have designs on threatening the US cellular network.

    Are you puzzled? How do you explain this move Trumpsters?


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/...bs-at-chinas-zte-lost-after-us-sanctions.html
     
    #1 Sweet Lou 4 2, May 13, 2018
  2. KingCheetah

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    Wow, this is a really bizarre decision even for Trump.
     
    #2 KingCheetah, May 13, 2018
  3. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    I am glad he is doing this. ZTE is a big company. What is the point of putting thousands of people out of jobs? This would hurt the chip manufacturers that sell to them too.
     
    #3 Air Langhi, May 13, 2018
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Screen Shot 2018-05-13 at 12.21.45 PM.jpg
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Because there are no other competitors to buy the chips?
     
    #5 Sweet Lou 4 2, May 13, 2018
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    National Security. It matters.
     
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  7. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Its a company with 75k people and 20billion in revenue. That is a lot of people lives to screw over. Most National Security is bullshit. If Iran and North Korea get some cellphones are going to be able to defeat the US now. Its one less phone we can buy.
     
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  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's a company that trump first sanctioned and now is going to save? Why is the US president saving a Chinese company?

    There are plenty of other companies - in China - that can sell us cell phones. I assure you the market will have plenty of phones. And without Chinese companies with ties to their spy agencies building out our cellular network.
     
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  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    They screwed themselves over.
     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    ... and the WH attempts to back away from trump's tweet...

     
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  11. adoo

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    not only is Trump Putin's useful idiot,

    Trump has shown that he is also Xi's useful idiot​
     
    #11 adoo, May 14, 2018
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    The point is that actually enforcing the sanctions is what makes the sanctions more effective. If a company violates the agreed about sanctions and then lies about it, they can't be trusted and should have consequences for their actions.
     
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  13. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Levying a fine is okay. maybe arrest a few people. Putting 70k people out of jobs is not good. I am guessing 99% of these people knew nothing about this. Would you have been good if the US decided to let gm or the banks fail. They deserved to fail, but putting that many people out jobs would not have been good. Do you think the Chinese would have been cool if the US did that?
     
    #13 Air Langhi, May 14, 2018
  14. vlaurelio

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    I won't we surprised to know the ZTE funnelled funds to Cohen or another one of Trumps "lawyers"
     
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  15. FranchiseBlade

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    But the GM or the Banks didn't violate sanctions to countries that do far worse than lay off workers. I'd like for nobody to lose their jobs. But the Chinese company made the decision to do what they did. They are the ones not looking after the workers.

    You shouldn't be blaming anyone else. Chinese jobs shouldn't be the priority of the President of the United States.
     
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  16. adoo

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    which came first,

    the quid

    or the quo

    ?
     
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  17. SamFisher

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    More excellent negotiating from the very stable genius.
     
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  18. juicystream

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    While I generally agree with that take, what is the point of sanctions we don't enforce? This is especially awful given how Trump would have derided Obama for making a move like this

    My problem is we banned exports of parts to ZTE hurting our manufacturers for the faults of China.
     
    #18 juicystream, May 14, 2018
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    What happened to “America First”?
     
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