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[Marvel movies] Infinity War! (Part 1 and 2)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by seclusion, Oct 28, 2014.

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  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Imagine 50% less people in this city though man, no more traffic. Better jobs available. Less pollution. Utopia.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    That was such a weak moment in writing.
     
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    I agree, I saw it coming and was just like “really?”
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Honestly cringeworthy. It was worse because they had Spiderman say something like "almost off" or "it's coming off" or something and he literally had it pulled 3/4 of the way off Thanos' hand. Too much there man.
     
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    How do we feel about Thanos being a softie?
     
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    Softie? He wiped out half of existence and killed pretty much everybody he had to.

    Comic book Thanos was a boring Darkseid knockoff. He was OP, evil and his reason for wanting to conquer was to impress a girl. He would have been just another addition to Marvel's lame villain collection.

    MCU Thanos was exceptional. By far the best of the big screen MCU villains. Marvel knew they had to change the character to make him worthy of the 10 year build, and they hit it out of the park. Making Thanos the "protagonist" for all intents was a stroke of brilliance.
     
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    I'm thinking the bold part will still come into play especially with how the movie ended with the vision of a young Gamora asking if "it was done".

    And he didn't HAVE TO do anything of what he did. He's worried about an overpopulated universe? Why? Its not his responsibility. I just felt the motive was poor unless I missed something.

    Now if there is a stronger being pulling the strings like some people are alluding to with the "Young Gamora" then this may just be another weak villain showing in hindsight after its all said and done. Overall I enjoyed the movie except for the humanization of Thanos. Should have just left him as an evil conqueror. And all of the "deaths" fell flat for me too because we all know they're coming back for their solo sequels.

    I may be in the minority but I wouldn't put this as the best MCU movie. Top 5-7, sure. I think I still like Civil War and Thor Ragnorak as the best ones.
     
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    I wouldn't call him a protagonist.

    If you have unlimited power, knowledge, etc. and you recognize that the universe has too many sentient beings for the current limited resources do you:
    A) Kill half the universe to match the amount of resources more appropriately to the population
    B) Create more/infinite resources to match the population
    C) Find some other solution that doesn't involve killing half the population because you literally have unlimited options

    If you picked A you are a psychopath and NOT the protagonist of the story. This also doesn't address that he doesn't just kill people and feel bad about it, he tortures people and pits them against each other in brutal games for his amusement.

    A flawed protagonist would be the one who thinks you need to eliminate the population because you can't do anything about the limited resources.

    Let's go to the Joker's game in Dark Knight. There is a bomb on two boats and you have a detonator. If you make the decision to blow up the other boat to save the people on your's, you are a tragic/flawed hero. It's sad, but arguably necessary. If you blow up your own boat to save the other boat you are a hero, but still flawed. If I give you the option to disarm both bombs and you STILL blow up a boat and kill people? You are a murdering psychopath.
     
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    A protagonist doesn't have to be the good guy, merely the primary character in which the actions of the movie surround. He had easily the most screen time, and he experienced for the most part a traditional hero's journey. That movie followed Thanos quest.

    As for him torturing people, I don't remember that. The tortured Nebula, but not out of enjoyment, he wanted info. When he got it it he stopped and let her live. I don't remember him killing one person just because he was being mean. What did he do that was simply for his amusement? He did what he though he needed to do, not for the LOLs.
     
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    True, thought you were implying he was on the just side here.

    1) He killed all the dwarfs at the forge even after getting what he wanted EXCEPT for the one who made him his gauntlet. That was an act of cruelty
    2) On the Asgardian ship he didn't kill only HALF the population, rather he killed all of them, including women and children. Again, cruelty.
    3) He killed a wounded and defeated Heimdallr for sending away the Hulk.
    4) He teased Thor as he killed Loki.
    5) He forced Nebula and Gamora to fight each other as children and then would remove body parts of Nebula when she lost
    6) When he held her in a state of torture it wasn't for information. He had the power to access her memory logs at any time, as he revealed to us by doing it on screen.

    Furthermore, one isn't in possession of torture devices and techniques unless one tortures lol. His "children" are prepared to torture as well to get what they want. His daughter Gamora is hated throughout the universe for killing people on behalf of Thanos.

    Gamora herself claims that Thanos tortured her when we are introduced to her character.
     
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    Yeah but some of those 50% did contribute making the city great in the first place.

    I dun think they can choose, which 50% will go, the Elite Smart 10% could very well go.
     
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    There is a White Knight volume you know, where Joker becomes the hero.
     
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    Why does everyone assume the Infinity Gauntlet + stones would allow you to create more resources? You could just as easily assume it would allow you to be impervious to injury, seems reasonable, but it doesn't, you can still get hurt.
     
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    It wouldn't be crazy to assume you could bounce back and forth between alternate universes to bring more resources to your own. Or do the stones not do that?
     
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    They do whatever the writers want them to do, but there's no reason to assume you can double resources. It isn't like Killmonger's scenario where there's a clear alternative.
     
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    I'm not sure on the upper bounds of the IG's power, but I'm guessing it is limited more by the willpower and imagination of the wearer than by its power.
     
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    I really enjoyed the fight scenes between Thanos’s “children” the Black Order and the Avengers...especially the battle that took place in NY
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Gonna go see again Thursday. That will make it 3 times. I hope the crowd is hype.
     
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    I did too except for the fact that Vision and Scarlet Witch had trouble beating them and Black Widow, Captain America, and Sam didn't.

    With the exception of CA (and that may be pushing it) there is no place for regular humans taking on powerful alien life forms.
     
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    Was anyone else rooting for Thanos the whole film?
     

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