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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. Amiga

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    Perspective. Reality. Facts.

     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    I love Nueces County.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Fake Facts!

    The Deep State is at work. The Deep Sate protects its own, Obama and Hillary, and destroys agents of change, Trump.
     
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  4. Buck Turgidson

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    How are you going to persuade people with evidence that they will never acknowledge exists in the first place?

    I've never actually beaten my head against a wall for any length of time, but at some point you do stop, right?
     
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  6. Amiga

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    You can’t. They have to see it for themselves.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    And then still, they will continue to deny its existence and instead talk about something else, like the color of hats...
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Didn't realize tha special counsel was involved in those other scandals. Link to his report ?
     
  9. No Worries

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    The Deep State is involved. The Deep State is controlling the Mueller investigation, as it sees fit.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    I wonder if any of the insane homeless people I drove past this morning were just pretending to be crazy. At the end of the day, I guess it doesn't really matter, if you act crazy you are crazy.
     
  11. cml750

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    And not a single indictment has ANYTHING to do with Trump / Russia collusion. As for Benghazi and the Clinton e-mail scandal, I would love to see what special prosecutor with an almost unlimited scope could do with those.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Not enough evidence to warrant one. But the Republican Congress is always going back and investigating those issues again and again, so maybe on the nineteenth try they will find something.
     
  13. adoo

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    u need to stop publicizing ur ignorance.

    Popadakis was the first Trump campaign advisor to be indicted, for lying about his interactions / meetings w Russians
    then there was Flynn caught lying about him talking to the Russian Ambassador about US lifting sanctions against Russia​
     
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  14. dobro1229

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    Stop making up your own facts once again.

    A. Its just not true that the indictments/guilty pleas don't have ANYTHING to do Trump/Russia collusion. You'll spin it however you want, but simply...you are lying out of your a$$, and spinning on behalf of your beloved two scoops. The very first guilty plea spelled out in plain English Papadalolous working with a Russian cutout.

    No... there has not yet been produced a smoking gun CRIME (Conspiracy to commit crimes against the US in relation to the hacking of the DNC), but its just completely propagated bull crap to say that the indictments & guilty pleas produced thus far have nothing to do with the Russian/Trump collusion probe.

    Serious Q.... if 20+ indictments were produced out of the Hillary Clinton email probe that weren't a smoking gun regarding classified info, would you be so passionately defending Hillary, and casting so much vitriol at James Comey & the FBI then? Do you really want to sit here, and bold face tell us that lie?

    B. The Republicans controlled both the House & the Senate during the Benghazi investigation. They had full subpoena power, and had the power to impeach and remove anyone based on their findings. They didn't once submit referrals for crimes to the DOJ so you can't blame Loretta Lynch for not issuing any indictments without having any referrals.

    It's just complete garbage to say that the Republicans didn't have "unlimited scope". With full power of the House & Senate the Republicans could have impeached and removed Obama on behalf of Hillary Clinton & James Clapper for simply having a ham sandwich & wearing a tan suit. The controlling House & Senate can investigate whatever they want, whenever they want, and they can do it for political reasons. The DOJ cannot shutdown their investigations like they can with the special counsel.
     
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    Also - If the Republicans in full control of the House & Senate during the final 6 years of the Obama admin, had limited power & scope to investigate & prosecute.....

    Why is it that REPUBLICAN Trump fans are freaking out about the Democrats taking back the House & potentially senate & running on endless investigations & impeachment? You guys & your Trump propaganda media are literally lying nonstop to create a narrative that "Democrats are running on impeachment"... which of course is a bold face lie. NOBODY I've seen running for Congress or the Senate has run ads about impeaching Trump.

    If there's no power there then why does it matter if the Democrats win back the House & Senate?
     
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    If a special counsel only found process crimes and stuff unrelated to Hillary emails then I would be disapproving (similar to Mueller). I already said I don't like indicating McCabe for just lying (though it is karma). Fortunately we already know Hillary kept tons of classified documents on her server, so we know she broke the law.
     
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  17. adoo

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    just like DJ Trump said, for 5+ years, that

    he knows that Obama was not born in the USA​
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Why do you keep on reposting this segment? Your own postings undercut whatever point you are trying to make (that the Manafort indictments have nothing to do with the Russian/Collusion probe).

    If you read beyond what your posted they clearing explain how the Ukraine connections are the basis for the indictments and unless you know NOTHING about Russia & Putin, you'd know that the Ukrainian connections that Manafort has, has had, are the PRO PUTIN parties out of the Ukraine. The intelligence community & our military likely don't see any distinctions between the pro-Russia parties in Ukraine & the Russian government. They are one in the same.

    .............

    Regarding your basis on Hillary "we KNOW she kept tons of classified docs on her server".

    We KNOW that Trump has committed Obstruction of Justice. He does it every damn day when he's openly trying to obstruct, but if Mueller doesn't find the obstruction PROSECUTABLE, then he won't be charged with any crimes or referred for impeachment based on said crimes.

    Hillary didn't have to pay a LEGAL price, but she sure as hell paid a political price especially with independant voters who weren't in love with her to begin with. Will Trump pay a LEGAL price for obstruction.... maybe, maybe not. Will he pay a Political price?.... probably not because folks like you will never abandon him and have shown your undying support. He never really had any swing voters to lose in the middle to begin with so if you separate the LEGAL vs. the political, its pretty stark what he's able to get away with.

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    My point was that the Republicans (representing now Trump fans) had the power to not only prosecute, but they also could have still punished even without DOJ agreement. This whole idea that Hillary had a fixed game & Trump has the deep state out to get him is just insane. People have ZERO knowledge about how our government works, or just act like they don't know so they can make up & propagate their straight up lies to push an agenda on behalf of Two Scoops.
     
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  19. Bobbythegreat

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    No, not like that at all, the birther nonsense was similar to the "Russian collusion" in that there was never actually any solid evidence of it, just innuendo. When it comes to Hillary's crimes, the evidence is solid and largely available to the public.
     
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  20. larsv8

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    Not really sure what your point is here.

    Mueller's directive is to investigate any collusion related crimes and anything they find illegal while looking at collusion.

    They were looking at collusion by looking into Manafort's Ukrainian activities and found a different crime.
     

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