He was also bad in X-Men. He's good in GoT. He was good in that train station indie movie. Haven't seen him in anything else.
Yeah, his performance wasn't all that, but maybe the directors' vision of his character was the cause. Stilted, booming, ponderous dialogue.
I was just going to mention that critics are not great when it comes to these movies. Fans are not only seeing this thing in droves and voting with dollars, they also rate it high. Critics put it in the back half of all marvel movies. WTF is that.
I was wondering the same when I saw Infinity War. I knew I'd seen critics listing this Marvel film in the back half when ranking them all. Kinda like the Springsteen fans who rank "Born in the USA" as one of his lesser albums (probably because it brought out a lot of new fans, making Bruce not their "special thing" anymore; yeah, don't'cha just hate it when an album is comprised of nothing but catchy singles or could-have-been singles?) But I digress. I can understand that when you concentrate on one superhero and his or her little universe, it isn't so big, loud, you have time for character development, etcetera and blah blah blah. The critics who groused that you introduce a character in Infinity War, only to jump away to another.....um, we've had ten years of movies to set up this movie. Besides, Thanos was an excellent villain and not one-dimensional (in the context of Marvel films). His monologue-ing wasn't extreme or annoying. If anything, he was the hub that gave the other planets gravity and kept them in orbit. As I mentioned earlier, even my wife wants to see this movie again, and she almost never needs to see such a movie twice.
Finally was able to see this last night. I would have never been able to tell you after it was over that it was over 2.5 hours long, it FLEW by. I'll definitely be seeing it again soon. Some observations: Spoiler The whole thing between Scarlet Witch and Vision has never been handled very well, in my opinion. I know why they did it, it's from the comics after all. But this 'great love' between the two just sort of materialized out of thin air, we have nothing invested in it, nothing earned. I know it's nitpicking, so when I say it 'bothers' me, I am just saying that of all the wonderful things Marvel has done in these movies and world-building, that particular relationship was among the weaker aspects. The problem being, of course, that so much of IW hinged on the fate of The Vision, and the stakes just didn't feel that high to me because we really haven't had to invest much in the character. And I don't think they ever really knew what to do with Scarlet Witch. Next, I never read any of the 'Infinity Wars' comics, so I don't know if the ham-stringing of both Hulk and Vision were part of the original story, but it definitely felt odd to have such an important story happening without the two arguably most powerful heroes they had. Just felt a little weird. Next.. what did T'Challa's little sister do right before Vision had to hop up off the table? Did she 'back him up' or save him somehow, or manage some secret thing we will see in the next movie, which will let Vision return from being killed? I looked like she did something and then we never saw her again. Next.. Again, not being a reader of this particular comics series, I don't honestly know how it ends, but I have heard enough over time on the internet to know that it involved alternate universes and probably Captain Marvel. And so when my wife turned to me after the end and asked if I thought there would be a 'post credits' scene, I told her it would probably be a reveal of Carol Danvers.. and while it was cool to be right, sort of.. I also was wondering about the golden pod we saw at the end of GotG2.. Adam Warlock is supposed to be some big queso, but I don't know if he is a player in the next part of the Thanos story. Speaking of Thanos.. after he 'snapped his fingers'.. and ended up in that 'otherworldly dimension'.. it seems like there has to be more to that. Why would it have been Gamorra as the child? And why would she have been asking about 'is it done'? Seems fishy to me. I know that Thanos, in the comics, was not acting out of any sort of altruistic 'conservationist' motivation (which is silly frankly), but was instead trying to earn the love of the personification of Death itself (herself?). So now I am wondering if this 'Lady Death' may have invaded Thanos' thoughts a long time ago, using his only real weakness, his love for Gamorra, taking her form, and convincing him to go on this quest to extinguish half of all life in the universe.. and that part of the story moving forward might be that he discovers that he was fooled, and used, and he somehow becomes instrumental in 'reversing' what he did. No idea at all if that is where it might go, but it seems like it could head that direction. Will be seeing it again, may have more questions/observations later. GREAT MOVIE!!
Agreed, but he did have one of the funniest lines of the movie when he told Thor, “yes... that’s what kill you means” Sorry for the lack of spoilers, I just don’t think that one line without any context needs a spoiler.
On some of your responses in the spoiler tag Spoiler I believe the writers/etc confirmed that Adam Warlock isn't going to appear in Avengers 4 but only in GOTG 3 and so on. So on that, Captain marvel may be the only new big player for Avengers 4. I'm a little suspicious also as to why it was the child version of Gamorra that Thanos sees in that 'realm'. I think there's another force thats influencing him like you said, which is why he kept repeating that 'he lost a lot today' and him actually crying when he sacrificed Gamorra.
This is what comic book movie should be, it wasn't perfect but it's my favorite in the MCU. This was a combination of the great story/acting of Winter Soldier with some of that natural wittiness/great quips of the first Guardians with great action sets like the first Avengers. What makes this movie my favorite is the villain and.... Spoiler an ending where the heroes utterly failed at saving 50% of all sentient life in the universe. I felt we finally had an epic comic book WTF moment that just felt so refreshing after a lot of rather formulaic MCU movies. Thanos is probably one of the best cinematic villains in my book. I just thought they did such a great job of making him a super villain with "humanity". The scenes with Thanos and Gamora, especially the soul world scene with young Gamora, really show how Thanos understands and accepts he will have to sacrifice everything to achieve his end goal. I think the last scene of Thanos looking over the landscape from a modest building reveals his grand plan: reset the universe but not rule over it. That was a great foil to the how our heroes were unwillingly to sacrifice everything, "we don't trade lives".
I believe a Nebula/Warlock combo takes the Gauntlet off of Thanos' hand while he leaves his physical body unattended (basically his ego, defeats him). I doubt it'll be like that though.
Well it certainly won't be like that, they've confirmed that Adam Warlock won't make his debut till Guardians 3.
Yep, Thanos' motives are completely different. that goes to show me they're going in different direction and that's fine. It'd be hard to recreate a battle with cosmic entities anyway.
Ok, so how about this theory? Spoiler So, Thanos has been chasing down the 'Infinity Stones' for a long time, with the ultimate goal of using the final assembled stones to simply, as everyone puts it, 'snap his fingers' and eliminate half the life in the universe'. In the movie, Thanos' motivation for this appears to be that he himself believes it is 'for the best' - a perverted insane sort of altruism, meant to make life 'better' for those who remain alive. The fact that it never occurs to him that, with the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, he could use it to simply create more prosperity for all life, and eliminate the 'hardships' he saw, indicates that, for all his power and knowledge, he wasn't actually thinking clearly, or was in fact insane. I know, in the comics he was 'the mad titan', so ultimately he was just an insane monster. But in the movie, it doesn't smell that way. It looks more like he has been led astray, and led astray by someone/thing which had death as its ultimate motive. Far from making life 'better', in fact the only real accomplishment was death on a cosmic scale. That leads us back to the 'Lady Death' idea, or at the very least, some sort of personification of death itself (unlike Hela in Ragnarok, who in contrast only seemed to be powerful and wanting to rule through fear and death as an easy tool). So to me it still seems that Thanos was led onto his path, and due to his own pain and fears from his early days, he was easily led there. But merely having the stones and the power the gauntlet provided leaves us with questions as to exactly what happened when Thanos did in fact 'snap his fingers'. Obviously, most or all of the heroes and other people who 'died' at that point are going to come back somehow. The question is how and why? There may be an easy and tidy solution. It's noteworthy that the people who 'died' didn't simply fall over dead, which is more along the lines of what you would have expected. Instead, they simply 'evaporated' into a sort of dust. And since we know they aren't *really* dead as such, what actually happened? Well, we know that the Marvel universe is filled to overflowing with 'alternate universes'. It's a silly and messy thing, which hopefully the MCU can avoid as much as possible, but I don't think it will be possible to avoid it entirely now. But rather than a 'bunch of alternate universes' already existing, what if Thanos himself *created* an alternate universe when he snapped his fingers? What if half of all life was separated into one universe, and the other half into the other? I could very well be that for those who 'died' in the film, they could still be alive and have watched all the people WE saw live 'die', in the same way we saw it? In other words, every death we saw, and every life we saw spared, could be exactly reversed in the 'alternate' universe. This could be very handy for the MCU, in that it then creates more possibilities, it allows for everyone to ultimately 'come back', but it could also allow for some variations to happen, simply as a result of 'two realities' meshing back into one. This is how the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Doctor Doom, and all of the other properties they didn't previously control can be rather seamlessly brought into the fold. I'm sure there are probably holes in this idea, but it does at least seem plausible, given what we have seen so far, and knowing that Marvel has a quandary of how to integrate those other properties back into the MCU. What do we think? Maybe?
