Newest Conservative hero Kanye: slavery was a choice

ROFLMAO man that is his type.

 

justtxyank and myself have cleared the air on this. You don't need to flex your African superiority, we get it, you're the most African person here. You know the most about slavery, you know the most about history, you know everything and you make it all groovy

 

Saying that "Slavery was a choice" is technically true, but that's such a drastic oversimplification that it has no value as a statement. It's like saying that breathing is a choice.

 

Kanye meant what he said - but I also think he wasn't clear in what he was saying - I recommend you look at the video of Dr. Claud Anderson - an start at the 32:24 min mark - regarding Slavery. He said something similar like Kanye West said - but not in full detail..

 

I think you are absolutely right in that's what he was intending to say, but when you simply say that "slavery was a choice" it sounds too flippant. Like I said above, it's a true statement, but it would have required several hundreds and probably thousands to choose death over slavery to make any difference at all and that type of unity and resolve among slaves didn't exist for many reasons.

 

Who is this dude

 

This sh-t is dumb. And some of you are dumb for taking it as fact because some dude with a "Dr." in front of his name is saying it. Not surprised that some would take one clip of a black dude sh-tting on the race and attribute it to all other black people. It's why Kanye is trending. Racists, and people that say they aren't racist, but are fine with others being racist eat this stuff up.

To say a whole people just sat back and let slavery happen and tried to get along with whites is dumb. There were hundreds and hundreds of revolts before slavery was abolished. Southern whites put laws into place where blacks would be outnumbered to cut down on the revolts.

Blacks were fighting for their freedom on the boats that brought them to the Americas. Because it too 400 years, people want to say, "What took so long?"

It's absolute bullsh-t.

 

Do you want me to tell you why the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade was different as it relates to today?

Hint: It focused on dehumanizing an entire 'race' of people. Even after it ended, this dehumanization continued to the point where today black people are still thought of as lesser, dumber, violent people by some.

While say other slaves (We can go through history if you like) were slaves because they lost a war or needed to pay off debts. Again, if you can bring me a similar situation to the slave trade, please do.

Also, because I know this happens a lot when discussing the history of slavery, I'm not saying one form is better or worse or these people had it worse than the others, but this was the largest instance of chattel slavery in known human history. It ended 150 years ago which is a relatively short time ago, it still ripples through history. 150 years is nothing. We have people still alive today that are over 110 years of age, point, this wasn't really all that long ago. It wasn't forever ago, we are not talking about the Egyptians here. They lived 5,000 years ago...just throwing that out there for comparison's sake. This isn't ancient history.

Now, do you want to talk about THIS instance of slavery or another? It seems so hard to talk about THIS instance with some people, they always deflect and want to talk about some other instance of slavery but they never actually compare the forms of slavery they are talking about.

Edit: finished off the thought there lol.

 

Technically it's not a choice.

That's why it's called slavery

 

Technically everything you do is a choice, it's just that some choices seem so awful that it's hard to just call them a choice without describing it further. That's what I was saying.

It's 100% true that if all slaves simply refused to work and be slaves the system would have failed.....but that "choice" would have led to unspeakable horrors so it's a bit unfair to simply call it a choice without explaining what that choice would have meant in greater detail. Again my comparison is how breathing is a choice technically.

 

I'd like to correct you for being the dipshit who swore up and down that the Russia investigation was a hoax and then vanished from the BBS for about a year or so. Welcome back!

 

Has there been some evidence that the Russia investigation was legitimate that has come to light? I mean, I think I'd have heard about it if some kind of evidence proving collusion between Trump and the Russians came out.

 

Being a Holocaust victim was a choice.

 

Don’t project your inferiority complex on me because you haven’t done the necessary research. I called you out for making a gross oversimplification of a pretty complicated issue. If that bothers you, you should do more research before speaking or remain silent.

 

It doesn't surprise me that you don't see the difference between the 2 situations and you failed to understand what I was saying. That's just about the level of thinking I expect from you. Good job.

 

What are the differences? Jews had a choice to not be sent to those camps, right?

 

They had no choice in not dying, in fact if they died, the Germans would be happy about that outcome. Slaves were property, if they died, it was a sunk investment. In order to get a return on that investment, the slaves had to work. If they refused to work in bulk, and they were killed for it the owners lose money, at a certain point it would become untenable to continue the practice. Thus the slaves had more of an ability to change their own circumstances because they had some value to their owners. Jews and other "undesirables" that were thrown into death camps by the Nazis had no value to their captors, if they died, it was a bonus.

I mean, you can see that difference right?

Now I'm not saying it would have been an easy "choice" for slaves to refuse to work and that's why I compared it to the "choice" of breathing, but both are technically choices that can be made.

 

In 1803, approximately 75-80 Igbo slaves attempted to commit mass suicide by drowning when they landed off the coast of Georgia. 10-15 were successful, the rest were removed from the water by force by slave traders, shackled further and sold into slavery.

Did those who were unsuccessful “choose” slavery? If so, why?

 

What Kanye is saying is self victimization is a form of slavery of the mind. So based on that belief, blacks in America are still slaves today