I wanna say the whole organization tbh. Matt schaub was probably our best qb overall, Watson will soon be da best. U know something wrong with the organization when a free agent qb is in contention for best qb of the franchise. Schaub in my opinion at best was suppose to be a bridge gap, but texans were too complacent with his performance so they didn't bother even trying to find a franchise qb/heir. Browns r a sht organization, but u can't blame them for trying to draft one with their picks. Texans didn't even bothered 2 until it was kinda late. I am just glad we were blessed to get one on our first usage of a first round pick in a while.
Would you have preferred Bortles to Clowney? Paxton Lynch over Will Fuller? Garrett Grayson over Kevin Johnson? Geno Smith over Deandre Hopkins? Brock over Mercilus? Christian Ponder over JJ Watt? Those are all the QB chosen right after the Texans first round pick. Which one of those would you have liked? It's easy to just say go get a franchise QB but there's a lot of luck involved with it. When the Texans were picking #1, the highest rated QB was Blake Bortles. They traded for Matt Schaub who was highly rated and was pretty good for a few seasons; when they got their defense together, Matt started falling apart. Even Andre believed that if Matt hadn't gotten hurt in 2010, they would have won it all. They signed the highest rated free agent QB in Brock and it blew up in their face. And they fixed it just a year later and landed Deshaun Watson. That doesn't sound like a complacent franchise. And since you believe getting that franchise QB is all that is needed, what say ye about the Detroit Lions? Or KC (Alex Smith)? Or Cowboys (Romo)? Or Bears (Cutler)? Or Oakland (Carr) missing the playoffs while healthy? Or Falcons (Ryan) taking forever before winning his first playoff game? ...I really could go on.
Complacency, we all know that the franchise qb is the most important role. But yea all these gud players we drafted wowzer soo gud, content with star power, makes it into playoffs then get blown out b/c we have an inferior qb. Rinse and repeat. There's something wrong when it takes an organization 16 years to find a franchise qb. Granted we drafted great players, but in football the QB is one of the most important role. We were content with Schaub performance (as a bridgegap) so we never bothered with finding a franchise qb, until it was too late. Even then we relied on star power on defense while using sht qbs. U have to explain why it took near the end of Smith tenure to finally use a 1st round pick on a qb. 11 years, u can argue that some of the picks were for better players like Watt, Mercilus, Hopkins, but my reasoning was that Texans were fine with being okay. Browns maybe a sht organization, and we might be in a better situation than they are because we are run better/better luck. It's all the same to me if we both have little to no chance of competing for a ring. Everything changed with Watson pick, just can't believe it took this long. RIP Andre Johnson career.
The question was about what obvious franchise QB did the team have a chance to pick and pass on? Jimmy G doesn't count as obvious. Every team passed on him, most did twice.
There are 330 million people in this country and like what, 10-12 true franchise QBs? They certainly do not grow on trees and it is THE hardest position to fill in all of pro sports. It takes quite a bit of luck and timing to land one. Its really not hard to believe it “took this long” when you understand the landscape. The point is, we did make a ballsy move and we did land the right QB when an opportunity presented itself. We are hopefully set for the next decade plus now. Time to move on from this talk. If Watson had not gotten injured the misery conversations around here would be virtually non existent. And if the Texans stay health very big things are ahead.
We can argue all we wanted with what the texans could have drafted, but the main thing I wanted to point out was that Smith didn't even make a legitimate effort in via draft to find a franchise qb until (watson). Im blaming smith for just wasting players talent/career, while u r just happy we got a franchise qb. Complacency. Future is bright for the Texans I guess.
How come you didn't answer the question in my post? Which one of those QBs would you have picked over who the Texans picked? Just name one. I did explain why it took them so long. Luck. When the there were QBs worthy of first round picks, the Texans were picking too late. When they were picking high enough, the options were Blake Bortles (or Vince Young if you want to go back that far). It sounds like what you're saying is you prefer "swing-and-a-miss" than to take a ball. They were not fine. Why else have they been rotating QBs the past five years or so. Because they keep trying. And Schaub was not a bridge-gap. He was a franchise QB better than more than half of the other QBs in the league. Your reasoning doesn't make sense.
You only get an obvious franchise qb with the top 5 picks. So then could they have traded up at some point? Yeah why not. And Jimmy G was still an obviously good pick at the time, which is why the texans were considering him in the second round.
So let me get this straight, we've got "Texans fans" still whining about franchise QB's after the team finally got one? LOL, you crazy kids.
Aren't you "Mr Never Trade Up"? lol Some here are complaining about trading up for Deshaun Watson. Plus the interesting thing about trades is that you need two willing partners and a good enough deal for both to agree. You mean third round. The Texans picked XSF in the 2nd round. If he was obvious, all 32 teams wouldn't have passed on him. Most of them passed on him twice. I wanted him in the 2nd, you probably did too. But it wasn't a guarantee. He was pretty much the Lauletta of that draft.
Swing and a miss is the approach we should have been taking as soon as we signed Schaub (well maybe 2009-2011) I wished we tried to finding a heir/franchise qb, instead of just being contend with the sht qb we had and roll with it, go into playoffs and then get blown out.
JJ Watt is great and all, but as the complacent fan u just fine watching us make it into playoffs, and get blown out b/c of sht qb. But hey, we have JJ watt and made the playoffs wheeeeeeeeee!! Defense is great and all, but that means jack sht when we have no qb. I can't stand how most of us r so in love with JJ Watt, I like the guy but what have been our playoff status since getting him? 4 playoff appearance, and getting bounce out with little resistance due to lack of qb. but hey we have JJ WATTT!!!!!
What they mean when they are talking about QB's that were "obviously good" is that they were a draft crush that happened to pan out. If we remember back to that off-season, the real draft crush of many "Texans fans" was Teddy Bridgewater....but we don't hear about that draft crush anymore because he's proven to be a bust.
So you'd rather swing and miss at a ball in the dirt than stay put and wait for a good pitch or take a walk? You keep saying you wish they tried. What you should say is "you wish they tried exactly how DatRocketFan wanted them to try".
U have such a weird fascination with JJ watt, like most Texan fans. It doesn't matter that year, we should have been actively trying every year for a franchise qb. Having JJ watt is great and all, but that means jack sht if u dont' have a franchise qb. Most texan fans like u r sooooo happy with JJ watt and we made playoffs = we good. All i can see is that we barely made it into playoffs b/c of a sht division and gonna get eliminated b/c we lack a franchise qb (from not drafting one), but hey JJ watt guys!!! Complacency of making it into playoffs and JJ watt = happy texans fans. We already wasted so much of JJ watt potential b/c of complacency. Our roster strength, and free agency decayed a lot cause of complacency.
