If we strike out on Carmelo Anthony, is keeping Ryan Anderson really THAT bad???

hard to argue that we could've had a better regular season with melo. how many more games could we hope to win by replacing ryno with a less efficient higher usage player?

 

Absolutely absurd to hold this belief nearly halfway into 2018.


Have you watched this guy all year? He's like Joe Johnson. Bricks open shots, too slow to not be a weak spot defensively. No explosion at the rim.

No ability to get to the foul line at all.

He's terrible in a lot of ways and the Rockets would absolutely not re-invent him into being good.

Upside? Anderson could credibly exploit teams on the glass through playing big, as he typically does. That's upside, along with his shot making.

He lowkey had high post-up PPP numbers in NOLA right before he signed here but it's pointless considering it's not a D'Antoni play unless it's called for his son Joe Johnson.

Crazy to think the Rockets would somehow get something out of this clearly useless player.

 

I think Melo would have been a much better fit here than OKC and I would have preferred Melo over Anderson. I like Anderson, but he just hasn't been consistent enough or healthy enough.

 

And melo just hasn't been any good all year. Like I said before a system doesn't put the ball in the basket for you

 

Would take melo as a buyout and as a spot up shooter off the bench in 17-20 mins a night type role.

 

If Melo was as bad as you say how come they beat GSW in their head2head? Its not like Anderson is a world beater on defense either. How many fts does Anderson average a night? Melo is shooting 36% to Anderson's 38% from 3 so their shooting has been identical this year. The difference is Melo is scoring 16 pts a night and is a former superstar, Anderson can't even break double digits and like I said he is scared to shoot so in terms of upside Melo was high risk but higher reward.

The biggest benefit we had of having Anderson over Melo is Anderson is 5M cheaper, that allowed us to sign guys like Green and Luc. But if we are talking about just the player then it is pretty close between the two.

 

Lol. I think we truly know the answer to this question now. Worst signing in Rockets history when you consider what we are paying him. I'm waiting for him to literally win us a playoff game with his shooting so I can have some sort of consultation prize.

 

Anderson's contract likely saved us from Carmelo Anthony...so that's something.

Both players suck, but at least Anderson seems to know when he isn't helping and doesn't mope when his minutes are cut or he's asked to come off the bench.

If I could snap a finger and not have either player under contract I would be pretty happy.

 

Carmelo is coming to Houston with Lebron in the off-season. Get your mind right for it.

 

I guess if we're going to continue to be one of the most disliked teams in the NBA, might as well steer into the skid.

 

Pelicans lost Ryno and got the new version - Mirotic!!

 

TBH I would have preferred to have Melo over Anderson.

Production aside, he is an expiring contract. Yes he has a player option but you know he wasn't going to take the option over trying to sign, what would most likely be, his last long term deal entering the twilight years of his prime.

IMO, the one year experiment would have worked out for us either way. Anderson just isn't consistent enough shooting the ball. He's much streakier than Melo and we most definitely would provide him much better looks than what he's received in OKC with ISO Paul and ISO MVP playmaking for themselves more-so than for their teammates.

And if the experiment worked, it would have been that much sweeter. Now we'll enter next year with Anderson becoming that one huge expiring contract. Which isn't too bad in it's own right.

 

reality says thats just false. its pretty telling who has and hasn't actually paid attention throughout the year to how much melo has fallen off.

 

I've paid attention. Have you paid much attention to how little Anderson has actually contributed this season?

You tell me which one of those two seasons you would prefer to have on the Rockets:

 

whats funny is people wanted ryno to "contribute" exactly how he did previously. like having a deeper team has nothing to do with it and adding a hall of fame pg didnt effect anything. and id rather have the guy who even in a "down year" shooting 38% which most guys in the league can only dream of. one that doesn't have a **** ego who thinks hes too good to come off the bench when thats where he belongs playing the way he has this year

what does the 16ppg impress you that much? thats terrible numbers. he takes 15 shots to get that. thats absolutely abysmal. your attempt to prove something using those box stats in no way helped any point you were trying to make.

 

My first attempt to explain how being on a team with two superstar players that actually opens up good (or better, much better) shots will help boost your numbers as it has done for Ryno... when he's available, didn't take.

If you can't see that then what else is there to look at besides the numbers. Plus Melo has been averaging 5 more minutes per game plus he's played an additional 12 games on Anderson. You can't say those type of numbers can't affect your shooting percentages and overall durability going into the end of the season/playoffs.

I'm giving you information, so you take it or leave it. You still cannot prove that Melo would have been that bad of a coup had we gotten rid of Anderson. And at the same time I'm not going to complain about not getting Melo and having to keep Anderson.

At this point it is what it is. Waste of cap space.

 

The fact you're citing box score stats in a vacuum to prove your point speaks volumes. Have you watched the Thunder play this year?

 

Cancerelo Anthony - YUCK !

DD

 

oh so ryno never shot 40% from 3 before coming to houston. wrong, once again check the facts. hes been once of the league's best shooters for years.

like i said previously many times, a system doesn't put the ball in the basket for you. believing melo will shoot 40% just by playing next to cp3 and harden is a gimmick, especially at this stage of his career. hes done that once in his career over the course of a full season and that was when he was 28. just stop dreaming

but yeah hou definitely needs someone to take 16 shots to get 16 pts on this team. #whome

 

Ryan Anderson: 59.2 TS%, 38.6 3PT%. Melo: 50.3 TS%, 35.7 3PT%.

I'm a full on Ryno hater, but watching Melo this season he is clearly done and not an ideal fit next to CP3 and Harden. Do we need an inefficient iso scorer? No thanks to the guy who scores 16ppg on 15 shots. Part of OKC's problem is that opponents actually want Melo taking those threes. Ryno actually does draw defenders out beyond the line.

Melo is just as much of a defensive liability on guards as Ryno is and he's getting abused by Favors in the post, which is less of a problem for Anderson. He also laughed off the suggestion of coming off the bench when it would clearly suit him now. No such issue with Ryno. If you look beyond raw stats and look in terms of fit, age, attitude and defense I'm taking Ryno all the way.