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Starbucks closing stores after 2 black men arrested

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Invisible Fan, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Because the manager had the right to put them out He is gonna use the policy against people he doesn't like, if that's blacks I don't care. There was a policy. Don't put yourself in that position

    I don't give a ****

    Next time just buy that overrated crap

    Good Lord you need a step by step.

    @bobrek
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Old man stop quoting me. You're the one not understanding
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    They have no recourse regardless

    They are in violation of policy
     
  4. Astrodome

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    Is the bias absurd when such a minority commit such a high % of the violent crimes?

    I am not condoning the bias, just looking for the reason for it....
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Please quote me the official Starbuck's policy since you seem to know it. I'm not the one saying that it's NOT AN INJUSTICE to ask a couple of guys to leave due to their race. That's you. The only facts I am aware of is that the manager who "had that right" no longer works for Starbucks and that the Starbucks executive chairman is on record saying the two men should not have been asked to leave.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Considering the Executive Chairman of Starbucks says that there is no doubt in his mind that the two men were asked to leave because they were black, they have tremendous recourse.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Who cares what their policy isn't law

    You really believe in that overrated coffee

    And really we don't know the entire situation.

    Why are you sitting here like I give a damn about his job

    Show me that quote
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I have never had a cup of coffee in my entire life. Never liked the sip or two I have had. Don't care too much for the aroma. I've probably spent $50 in my life at Starbucks (breakfast sandwiches at IAH, a muffin or two and a hot chocolate or two). Here is the quote (which I posted earlier in this thread) from the Executive Chairman:

    "There's no doubt in my mind that the reason that they (police) were called was because they were African American," he said. "That's not who Starbucks is."

    Here is the link to the article containing that quote:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-executive-chairman-howard-schultz-racial-bias/
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I love that pgabs has gone on and on about coffee in a thread that has nothing to do with coffee.
     
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  10. pahiyas

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    Well it's kinda hard if your parents were both black, isn't it? :D :D
     
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  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You love everything about me
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Since I post so much I'll apologize for all the mistakes. I'll either get a better device or just slow down
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So that Starbucks doesn't have a restrooms for customers only policy?

    You are just talking past me. I don't care about anything in that quote.

    The police aren't in trouble so they must have had just cause, meaning violating a stated policy

    Are you juxtaposing it to all the mission statements that say racist decisions are okay?

    Edit:. On your worship of Starbucks, you're using their press release to tell me what was in that guy's head. I'm sure having climbed the Starbucks little franchise store mountain, he can speak for himself
     
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  14. Amiga

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    What is one day of lost revenue vs a generation of lost customers.

    It’s not that hard of a decision.
     
  15. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Okay man. I was driving at the time and didn't have time to read some long winded article. What I'm trying to say...it's turning into a knee jerk whenever someone see's, 'black' and something happening to them. It MUST be a racist, right?

    My rambling? Excuse me for suggesting that it's HIGHLY likely that there is much more to this story than what's being reported...That seems to be the norm now a days and people don't seem to give a damn about details that make the situation completely different than what it really is.

    You honestly think this is simply a racist woman who hates blacks and decided to kick them out because of it? Really?

    I really hope this goes to court...that way we'll be able to hear the whole story...I doubt Yahoo reporter "A" wants to include facts in their story that would get less clicks and comments.

    I'll read CW article when I get a sec...happy?
     
  16. Space Ghost

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    One thing I learned from this thread is that you're not allowed to loiter at Starbucks ... unless you're black.

    Tip of the day: Next time, use Panera Bread. They encourage people to hold meetings, even if you're not a customer. Skip the Starbucks, who has a crappy product, crappy policies, treat their employees crappy and an overly politically driven company who touts 'fairness and equality' to sucker the fools in buying their over price product.

    I found this cute tidbit in an article:

    "Attorney Stewart Cohen, representing Nelson and Robinson, said the men were illegally profiled. He pointed to Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race in hotels, restaurants, theaters and other public accommodations."

    in the same article

    "He thought nothing of it when he and his business partner, Donte Robinson, were approached at their table and were asked if they needed help. The 23-year-old entrepreneurs declined, explaining they were just waiting for a business meeting."
     
  17. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Awesome. I'm glad they're doing something to clean up Ferguson police practices. Really I am. As for what actually happened with Michael Brown...it had nothing to do with a racist cop gunning down an innocent black man. But that's the narrative that was pushed and will always be remembered regardless of what actually happened.
    That's all I'm trying to say...this story "2 black men kicked out of starbucks by racist" is all that will be known even if a truth comes out that tells otherwise...
    I guess it doesn't really matter though...just as long as a point can continue to be hammered home even with situations that probably aren't true. It just seems like, well, like you say, someone who wants to look the other way. And yes, I'll read your article when I get a sec.
     
  18. BigDog63

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    I think your other points are valid and worth exploring (ie, was this profiling?), but I think this is the part that isn't getting enough attention. Just buy a cup of coffee, and this whole issue goes away.
     
  19. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    No, that's not what I'm doing. It's funny that you say that bc it seems to be what all of ya'll do in this forum...trying to one up everyone. Michael Brown's situation blew up before everyone knew what actually happened...basically unethical reporting. But in the end nobody really cared about the truth...they just want to push their narrative. This seems to be going the same route bc of the same reasons.
     
  20. Amiga

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    Did I miss the story about some non-black people getting arrested for loitering at Starbucks?
     
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