The "murdering random citizens" by driving a truck into a crowd is what Islamic terrorists have done multiple times in Europe, I gave the more specific example because "murdering random citizens" typically isn't something that is being done by Christian extremists. I could have used any example but terrorism by Christian extremists is pretty rare so there's not a lot of incidents that would make people immediately think "Christian extremists probably did this" and certainly not any where "random citizens" are murdered.
Still using the word “r****ded” as an insult I see. I suppose you don’t need to worry about your “look” when you’re the village idiot. Must be nice.
(1) It wasn't a truck, it was a camping van. (2) Even if so (there have also been accidents due to a driver's heart attack for example), decency demands to wait for facts before you pick up torches and pitchforks. After the Breivik attacks several right-wing sites immediately called out Muslims, since it looked like scenarios we have seen before with Islamic terror involved, then they had to delete their **** quickly. This attack is yet another example not to judge too early and should teach you a lesson (but who am I kidding, right?). (3) We could argue about the term racism and its correct definition/usage, but since Islamic terrorist attacks most likely come from Arabic or North African individuals and since you instantly linked the attack in Münster to the refugee crisis, your tendencies are pretty obvious.
Not sure why you think that's relevant. It isn't. LOL 1. Did anyone pick up torches or pitchforks? 2. Find me one example of a person having a heart attack, driving into a crowd, then shooting himself. I'll wait. 3. The problems Europe is having as a result of Muslim extremism isn't dependent on any specific example, so if this happens to turn out to be the first truck attack with a different motivation, it doesn't really change anything. Apparently we have to argue about the term since you don't seem to understand what it means despite your desire to throw it around frivolously. Also, I never linked the attacks to refugees, that's something you made up. Finally, your racist idea that all Muslims are inherently Arabs or North Africans has nothing to do with anyone but you.
It's part of number 2. Wait for the facts before you draw conclusions. (1) You did, by posting it in this thread that concerns a real attack by an Islamic terrorist and hence linking the two incidents together. And by blaming Merkel. (2) How did you know for a fact that he shot himself when you first posted? How could you know for a fact that it wasn't an accident? During the time you posted the report, there were no facts around, just speculation. Some early reports also said that two people jumped out of the van and ran away - never happened. (3) No, it doesn't. Islamic terrorism is a serious concern, but as a civilised person or country you still at least try to avoid prejudice and bias. Blaming Merkel is an obvious clue. Go ahead and play the fool that hides behinds excuses and alibis. Everbody here understands the tone of your postings.
^^LOL. Can someone link me to the origin of this? I keep seeing it posted but not sure what it's referring to. I have my suspicions of course. Edit - referring to the crying face image.
It's really not, be it a van or a lorry, it's the same basic thing. Do you say a shooting wasn't a shooting because it was with a handgun instead of a rifle? I posted a German truck attack in a thread about a German truck attack... The fact that he shot himself was one of the very first things reported. When you hear that a person crashes into a crowd of people then shoots themselves....I mean, when does that happen by accident? Try to use your brain here. What prejudice or bias are you talking about? It's not prejudice or bias to think that a truck attack in Europe was most likely Islamic terrorism any more than it would be prejudice or bias to think that a person hijacking a plane and flying it into a building in America was most likely Islamic terrorism. It doesn't mean it automatically is, but there's absolutely no reason to think it's not till that information comes out. A lot of the problems with Islamic extremism and terrorism in Germany are Merkel's fault, that's what we were discussing at the time. If this incident turns out not to be yet another one of those incidents, it doesn't change anything about the other conversation. I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm just pointing out that your bigoted world perspective has nothing to do with anything I say. Your baggage is merely your baggage.
@Yung-T Still: "...if this incident turns out to be..." The Bobby dog-whistle in a nutshell. After he's been told, TOLD by an actual German citizen that he is wrong and is dealing with poor information and should probably just walk away...a day later he's still here, antagonizing - "but even if it wasn't" it could have been - and doing Bobby things because that's what the Bobbies do.
So in your mind, a German citizen can't be involved in an act of Islamic terrorism? I've never accused you of being the best or brightest, but damn kid. That said, even if that ends up not being his motive, it doesn't mean that there was anything wrong with thinking that was probably his motive to begin with nor does it make the problem of Islamic extremism in Europe go away.
Well, you said when a truck hits a crowd it's always been an Islamic terrorist attack. This time is was not a truck, which would've been a hint that it was not Islamists, because it is their ultimate goal to conciously kill as many people as possible, which hasn't been the case here. That's why I'm saying: Wait for the facts. Why not make a new thread? You knew exactly that the truck attack in Berlin was commited by a Muslim terrorist and that posting the Münster attack here would fit your "one more" agenda. Try to read here: I've said before that one of the very first things reported was that two people jumped out of the van and ran away. You can't trust early reports to 100%. At that time it was far from being officially confirmed who the offender was and that he actually shot himself, so when you posted first, you couldn't know whether he actually had a heart attack and it was an accident - or whether he was still killing people, whether he was fleeing or whether he indeed shot himself... And we're back to my original point. Your message was "Another Islamic terrorist attack. Thanks, Merkel" (clearly prejudice and bias) - when it should have been something like: "Another truck attack into a crowd. Looks like the attacks we've seen before from Muslim terrorists, but we don't know the facts yet." You never used the words 'most likely' in the first place. That's another discussion and doesn't belong here, see my last point. I've read the term dog-whistling and that's exactly what you're doing. Subliminal messages that you can kind of sneak off afterwards and let everybody know you didn't mean it that way. Pretty common standard from far rights over here, no suprises.
When a poster constantly has to resort to calling others "kiddo" or "kid" to make himself feel smarter you know he is already lost the argument. What a dumb ass lol
When there has been a truck attack in Europe, it has always been an Islamic terrorist attack which is why it would have made sense to think it probably was the case this time. I'm not sure why that's hard for you to understand, but it's really not that difficult. It didn't seem like it was something worthy of it's own thread. There have been plenty of truck attacks already and this just seemed to be another one. Perhaps that's the first thing you heard reported, but that wasn't the first thing I heard reported. I actually heard the rumors that there were people who ran away well after I heard the reports of the driver shooting himself....which is why I didn't put too much stock in those rumors. No, that wasn't my message, my initial post just said that there was another attack and I asked about how many times this would happen before there was common sense lorry laws to prevent this kind of thing. The conversation then mentioned the fact that there were attacks like this in Barcelona, Berlin, London, and now in Muenster. I then asked if there was ever a point where the attacks would lead to a backlash against Merkel....with the conversation then being about the many truck attacks in the past. It absolutely does belong here because that's the direction the conversation took. "Dog whistling" is something stupid people talk about when others don't say what they wish they had said in order for them to push the narrative they want to push. In short, keep your conspiracy theory BS to yourself, it will only make you look feeble minded. You can add going the route of fan fiction and stalker BS to the list of things that people can do to make themselves look pathetic when they are clearly incapable of discussing issues rationally with their betters.
That's an adorable take that completely ignores the r****ded fan fiction and stalker BS I'm responding to while trying to keep the conversation about what is actually being discussed. I mean, I don't expect much from you guys, but you always seem to go out of your way to appear as pathetic as possible.
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