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Truck runs through crowd in Berlin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    It was a mentally ill German drug addict. No Islamist background.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    It's terrible one way or the other but if we're having to deal with random crazies doing copycat versions of terrorist attacks just for kicks, that's pretty bad.
     
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    They did release his name and birthdate, nationality etc at that point, hence why I told you. You should inform yourself before making up conspiracies or trying to use the death of people to further your agenda.

    And trust me, I **** on Islam a lot here, but don't do it when the information isn't supporting that narrative.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Then what's his name? I haven't heard about that being released, just incredibly vague descriptions saying that he was a German citizen. By all means, if you have more information about this than I do, feel free to share. That said, assuming that a truck attack on the anniversary of a different truck attack would have similar motivations to the previous one isn't pushing an agenda. If an abortion clinic was attacked on the anniversary of an abortion clinic being attacked by radical right wing terrorists, guess what I would assume about the 2nd attack.....
     
  5. Yung-T

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    The guys name is Jens R. (not releasing full name when it's still under investigation), 48yrs old and lived in Olsberg. Was known to authorities for being mentally unstable and also tried to commit suicide a while ago, atm no affiliation to Islam known.

    So yes, the information is out there and I would really appreciate if you looked it up, the few minutes which it took you to reply lead me to the assumption that you didn't bother to really research. But I guess you care more about ranting about Merkel and left-wing policies than checking facts.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    That's not really a lot to go on and like I said, there's no description given. There's nothing about that information that would suggest a motive one way or the other so until some information comes up to the contrary, the most likely scenario is that the motive was similar to other truck attacks in Europe.

    For sure it'll change the conversation if it turns out that it was just a copycat attack by a guy who was just crazy, but as of now, there's no reason to think it's any different from the other truck attacks.
     
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    Wow you don't know about mental health do you? Your lack of knowledge is not surprising but the utter lack of intelligence or sense to post this is.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    I've been out of the D&D for a while, just thought I'd chime in and tell you that you're wasting your time. Bobby could talk to himself for hrs if he needed to, its impossible to prove any sort of point to this dumbass.
     
  9. el gnomo

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    True. Not much else to do in the ol' trailer park.
     
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    why does the media brainwash us to hate islam,muslim, or other middle eastern people, Those are the nicest people in the world when I meet them.
     
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    I'm glad you bring that up, especially since police apparently found a fake AK-47 in the offender's appartment. I don't want to imagine what would've happended if he could have shopped a semi-automatic weapon like gummibears. Then we're not talking about "only" two dead people.

    And to disappoint your racist prejudices: His name was Jens R., German, no Islamic or extremist background, not part of a group or something, lone wolve, mentally ill for quite some time, has had a suicide attempt before. Neighbors say he had a delusional disorder.
     
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    Lol Bobby fail. Nice job bumping the thread.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL racist? Don't be r****ded, it's a bad look.
     
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    “Us vs them” mentality.

    Their religious beliefs aren’t any crazier than Christians lol. It’s all a bunch of fairy tales.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    The difference of course is that you are forced to treat them differently. If Christian groups were going around murdering abortion doctors outside their clinics and then an abortion doctor was murdered outside his clinic on the 1 year anniversary of another abortion doctor being murdered outside his clinic, it would be perfectly fine to suggest that it was probably another example of a Christian fundamentalist murdering an abortion doctor.

    Change the religion and that application of logic would be considered "racist" or an example of "hate" by some of the less intelligent people in our society. I'm not suggesting that anti-Islam hate doesn't exist, but what is considered "hate" is all too often laughable.
     
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    The origin stories related to their religion and yours are equally ridiculous imho.

    That’s what I was getting at.
     
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    You immediately blamed a certain group of people for the attack and even linked it to the refugee crisis without knowing any details. That's textbook racism and it speaks for itself that you don't even (want to?) realise. Guess who did the exact same thing? Germany's nazi party.
     
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    I figured there was no islamic ties since no mention by el presidente but still this is why we must build a big beautiful dome, Minnesota ! Montreal can pay for it!
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Murdering random citizens is slightly less-targeted than murdering solely abortion doctors, no?
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    And mine? LOL, go on....

    No, that's not "racism", that's just using logic. When there is a truck attack in Europe before now it has ALWAYS been an Islamic terrorist attack, thus it was most likely that this would be an Islamic terrorist attack and there's nothing wrong with thinking that just like if there was a black church shot up by a white kid with a shaved head we'd all pretty much assume it was a racist attack.....you know, because that's the most likely scenario.

    Also, a religion isn't a race.....I know this is going to blow your mind, but there are Muslims of all races and sexes. Religion has no race.
     

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