Gerald Green will be in the playoff rotation per Mike

So money meet mouth first or we believe?

 

20 years from now, we'll be talking about a Gerald Green 3-pointer the way we talk about the Kiss of Death.

 

Ya ok "hysterical".. as if MDA hasn't shown how much he favors his prior star player with statements like "I JUST trust the guy" and "him leaving cost me a few championships "...

And just fyi Joe has played a lot of minutes at all positions other than pg and center. And that last sentence let's me know you don't know what the heck your talking about, since Ryan will be VITAL in the small lineup as the CENTER...

 

AT LAST... MDA says something I like hearing! Luv me some Green!

 

You are demonstrating the definition of hysterical.

According to 82games.com
Joe Johnson has played a total of 177 mins
Gerald Green played a total of 286 mins (he has been with the Rockets longer...thus the Rockets
know what he can do within the team scheme)

SG: Joe Johnson = 28 mins.........Green = 206 mins
SF: Joe Johnson = 143 mins.........Green = 80 mins
PF: Joe Johnson = 6 mins..............Green = zero mins

Joe Johnson has played:
1% of the teams SG mins for the season.......Green has played 13% of the teams mins at SG
7% of the teams SF mins for the season........Green has played 7% of the teams mins at SF
2% of the teams PF mins for the season.

Don’t kid yourself. On offense Joe switches to PF.....which means there is still room for Green. Your issue is with
Harden/Gordon and CP3 logging in time at SG.

As for Ryan Anderson, he will get mins at Center. Again don’t kid yourself. Most things that Ryan can do....
Tucker and Luc MaM can do as well. Maybe even better. Rockets would like Ryan to do well in the playoffs
as a means of increasing his trade value; but he will be on a short leash also if he is not producing.

Capela should be increasing his mins from 27 to 33 mins. Nene will get his 15 mins plus.
What I’m trying to tell you smart guy.....is don’t count too much on Ryan seeing too many mins at PF.
And Tucker or Luc can play the small ball center position, yes shooting 3’s, rebound, block shots, play defense
while running the floor better.

 

This makes me wonder if he will have a 10 or even 11 guy rotation

So far it’s been 10 as both JJ and GG have both been getting minutes

Which is great because I think JJ brings a lot to the table play making wise and etc abd GG is just playing great

 

I imagine Ryan Anderson might get his role reduced this year in the postseason. I don’t think D’antoni will extend his leash as long as it was last offseason.

 

i don't know where joe johnson fits with the full rotation tbh.

ariza, green, luc, tucker are all better SF's than him and tucker, luc, and anderson are all better PF's than him.

 

First of

I have no issue with guard rotation. My
issue is with Joe getting taking any min away from Green which he has, based on the fact that green was playing every game tell Joe came to the team..

What point did those min stats make? Your saying that Rockets know what Green brings, so Joe's been getting more run time to see what he Joe Has? Ok fine.. as long as the results are as obvious to MDA as it is to the rest of us.. he shouldn't get any minutes baring injury. I just don't think that describing Rockets fans as "Hysterical" (overemotional) when in important tight games, Joe's been getting serious run time down the stretch. He killed us that last Raptors game in the first half..

Luc has never played center for this team and when he does switch off to a center he gets bullied by the likes of Montrez Harrell. I still love Luc on this team.

And at no point do you make any specifics on your thoughts of Ryan's use in the playoffs other than he will be a spot up shooter here and there.. when I'm saying he's going to be VITAL against rim protectors.. I don't love Ryan but he's going to be used more than here and there... I think.

If you think Nene is getting 15min a game, you haven't been paying attention...but will see.

We'll see how this all plays out in time. I'm just glad green will get the run time he deserves..I hope.

 

I see you are new here. I’ve gone over all this before. I’m not going to do this every time a new person
shows up. I will try to summarize. I have stats written down upon request. Just afraid they may be confusing
you at the moment.

1st) why did I put down the stats before in post #26. Because you said Joe has been playing SG taking away
mins from Gerald. Stats say he mainly plays SF and Green mostly plays SG. Now I judge it by who is
guarding them. Often you see a PF guarding Joe prior to a forced switch. When do you see a PF or
center guarding Gerald Green originally?

2nd) Joe vs Raptors. Goes into what I’ve been telling people. Joe Johnson provides an element of Post Up plays.
Gerald does not. Looking at the play types of the Warriors, they run post ups, PnR, cutters, off screens, iso’s.
They have players almost across the board scoring high in post ups and cutters. They like to post up and have
Zaza or West or MeGee or Bell set a back screen on a defender which frees up a cutter like Klay or Draymond
or Durant or Casspi(scores high) or etc....results in a high amount of easy baskets due to body momentum headed to
the rim while everyone’s attention is on the post up player.(such as Livingston vs CP3). I’m not saying the Rockets
can or should run as many post ups as the Warriors; but it helps to run some post ups (around 10 possessions) to
keep the defense honest. Not wise for the Rockets to just run iso, PnR every play down the court with slight
variations of hand offs or weave. The post ups force the defense to rotate differently as the point of attack
changes. Allows the Rockets to implement a few cutters (such as GERALD GREEN) to do what some do
well and get an easy basket such as a dunk (maybe from a former slam dunk champion in the form of GERALD
GREEN). Opens things up as the playoffs often becomes a half court game. Back to 1st point....Joe hadn’t
played much with Utah and needed to practice his post up game in real time. Gerald doesn’t need to practice
3’s and slashing to the basket. That’s always there.....when has that not been there over the years?
Joe needed the practice and the team needed to see how the other teams defended Joe in the post.
Boston had a PG forced onto Joe in the post.....quickly called for Greg Monroe to come across the lane
as Joe was receiving the ball. Things like that will be important in the playoffs. I’m sure it’s over your head though.

Stats,nba.com play type
Regular season Joe Johnson post ups.......................................................playoffs
(15/16 Miami): 10.7% freq......1.15 ppp.....96.9 NBA percentile........16.0% freq.....1.03 ppp......85.3 NBA perc
(16/17 Uta)):.... 10.5% freq,....0.78 ppp.....23.7 NBA percentile ..........10.5% freq.....0.75 ppp......32.3 NBA perc
(17/18 Hou): ...19.7% freq.....1.00 ppp......82.9 NBA percentile.......... ??? (& this is with him rusty)
One can see teammates make a difference. Understand that ppp means points per 100 possessions in play type
with that particular player running the play type. Gerald Green doesn’t offer post ups for any sustained success.
Joe has been doing it his entire career. This is what Mickey D (D’Antoni) is saying.
Green (15/16 Mia)——————-couldn’t find his numbers—————-playoffs————————
Green (16/17 Bos):..2.9% freq....0.75 ppp.......— NBA percentile..........1.2% freq.....0.00 ppp..... —-NBA percentile
Green (17/18 Hou):..0.1% freq....1.00 ppp...... — NBA percentile.......... ???

3) Luc at Center: per 82games.com: (17/18 Houston Rockets)
SG) 2% of teams mins played at SG belong to Luc
SF) 24% of teams mins played at SF belong to Luc
PF) 12% of teams mins played at PF belong to Luc
C) less than 1% of the teams mins at C belong to Luc......doesn’t mean that you won’t see it in the playoffs (small ball)

48-minute Production PER at each position for Luc MaM (17/18 Houston Rockets)
SG: 8.9 PER
SF: 10.0 PER
PF: 13.3 PER
C: 50.0 PER.....don’t be surprised if the Rockets use Luc at Center in the playoffs during small ball experimentation.

4) Ryan vs rim protectors.....?? You lost me there. Where will Capela and Nene be at. Ryan is not exactly a great shot
blocker. Luc and Tucker might be better.

5) Nene averaged 17.9 mins in the 16/17 regular season with Houston. Stayed at 17.9 mins in the playoffs
This year Nene is down to 14.6 mins in 17/18 season with Houston. What will it be in the playoffs??
You say that he can’t do 15 minutes with no back-to-backs in the playoffs. I don’t get it. Why wouldn’t he
be able to if healthy? Capela and team will try to add 3 minutes per half to build Capela up from 27 minutes
to 33 minutes per game.

I’m done with your silliness. Go Rockets!!

 

Duh.

 

Deserveth indeed! Indubitably!

 

I don’t buy it tbh

 

Funny how you tout yourself as some stat guy then make assumptions based off of what? Some insider info "Make no mistake" "don't be surprised"... give me break..

Maybe you post all these number to hide the fact that your not as intelligent as you'd like ppl to think you are.

Nothing I say has anything to do with 1% this or 2% that...ok friend

Joe's post ups bring an element that green doesn't bring that's, easy to see... if he was as efficient as West or last year's Livingston then it's say GO FOR IT. It just hasn't worked.. He turns the ball over or misses the shot.. I don't care what he's done for other teams, I care about now and what he's done for the Rockets.

It's funny how some are so hyped about Iso Joes post ups like it's so amazing, but yet if other teams try that same strategy Rockets go one on one and say good luck with that.. You think teams will continually double Joe on the post up like that example you gave after 2 or 3 failed attempts by Joe? Cause the only up side to his post ups, is hoping some fool would come over to help, then Joe passes it out.

I didnt say he CANT...Nene is not getting any min, less we need a banger inside, otherwise MDA will put in Ryan OR PJ at center to stretch the floor during our small ball.. I don't have to convince you that's a good idea, it's what MDA is GOING to do.

And I don't care what Nene did last year ...

This convo started from you saying no1 was worried Green was going to be buried in the bench during the playoffs only Hysterics ... but it HAPPENED when Joe got to the team... no numbers you pull out your ass can change the past. Thats what fans reacted to. MDA and Rockets media even said that Green might be SOL but he needs to stay ready in case someone falls off.. smart guy

Go Rockets

 

H town Rep

Gerald Green >>>>>> joe Johnson >>>>>>>>>>> Busty Samuel Dekker

 

20 years from now, I'll be fertilizer...

 

I’ve been watching and studying basketball since before you were born son. For your age I find you
pretty ignorant to the game of basketball. Not pulling stats out of your @$$ while pulling nothing
but $#!£ doesn’t impress me.

Joe Johnson helped the Jazz get by with his post game in last years playoffs. But not the Warriors.
Why? Perhaps they couldn’t force the mismatch or didn’t try. Warriors force a mismatch and
then try to post up that mismatch. Creates open 3’s or hits to cutters going to the rim. This is
how they get easy baskets or easy put backs; while the center like Capela is block8ng out his guy,
the cutters gets a running start and out leaps the other players or taps the back out.

Rockets use the same forced switch concept and then turn it into iso with Harden or CP3 above the 3-pt
line break. Kick outs to open 3-pt shooters once they draw the defenders. Using Joe in the post
after a forced switch against the smaller Curry is to the benefit of the Rockets. Eventually wearing
Curry down having the bigger stringer Joe Johnson 6”8” and about 240 pounds vs the 6’3” 180 pound
weak ankles Curry. In theory that should wear him down by the 4rd quarters or later games of the series.
You are just too dumb to understand this. You are clueless. Just run up and down the court with your finger
up your @**.....hope things work out. That’s the logic that has stopped the Rockets each of the past 3 years.
Teams figure out what you do and game plan defend it. If a team like the Warriors can defend PnR and
Iso then the Rockets are dead in the water dummy. Team wants another weapon in their arsenal dummy
just in case. Squashing it before Joe Johnson can even knock the rust off is the epitome of stupid.

If you have the Rockets games on tape you would be able to see the progression in his post up game.
You will notice Joe drawing the attention and passing to open 3-point shooters. It’s not always
about Joe scoring genius.....as much as the team scoring dumba**. The perimeter players need
to make their shots, especially when the are OPEN!! It takes two to tango.

I’m done educating your dumb a**. You are the first person to make it on my ignore last. Leave you with this,
I defy you to watch the games and just view Johnson in the post and correct passes to open guys. You will see
it pay off in the playoffs. When the team is in a dogfight and the Rockets go to Joe in the post. Can be
the difference in a 5 point victory in a hard fought game. I will remember your name. I will definitely
call out your dumba** here.....telling you I told you so......you dumb F***.

 

Lol don't be so optimistic. Playing 1 minute also means "he is playing". What was he supposed to say? He is NOT playing?