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Arnold Schwarzenegger has reportedly undergone emergency heart surgery

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Back in the day of Arnold, not many people had come out about their use of steroids, some did but it was when Arnold himself came out about it that sparked so much discussion around the topic and the sport of bodybuilding, which at the time, was not where it is now in terms of the amount of people who know about it and who are involved with it.

    Arnold was competing in the “Golden Era” of bodybuilding amongst classic bodybuilders like Mike Mentzer and Frank Zane. He started training with weights at the age of 12 but really started bodybuilding when he was 15 years old and just five years later, he had won the title of Mr. Olympia, he then went on to win this contest seven more times in a row. Arnold Schwarzenegger had gained a lot of popularity not only from bodybuilding but from featuring in films such as Conan the Barbarian and the Terminator.

    However, many people, especially those within the bodybuilding community, have been wondering whether or not Arnold had been using steroids during his competitive years.

    So, did Arnold Schwarzenegger use steroids?

    There are those who believe that he did not use steroids, however, there is a lot of evidence and accounts that say that he did. In fact, he was one of the only bodybuilders at the time to be quite open about his use of steroids, you see, during Arnold’s years, steroids were far more widely available, people during this time have said that it was very easy to get their hands on anabolic steroids, nowadays it is a longer and difficult process. For example, back then, you could easily get a prescription written by a doctor to be able to buy anabolic steroids hassle-free, the prescription did not even have to have any sort of valid medical reason, the reason for people trying to get prescriptions may have simply been something like “my football coach told me I need to gain some muscle mass”. If you were to try and buy anabolic steroids legally through prescriptions today, you would need a proper medical reason.

    There was actually a book that was publicised called “Arnold: An Unauthorised Biography” that was written by Wendy Leigh. It revealed Arnold’s use of steroids. The contents of the book show how he was exposed to steroids at a fairly young age however when it was publicised, it soon went out of print, people can only speculate the reason for this but of course there was going to be something that made the information in the book seem real because of the fact that it was stopped from being printed. This only makes it more likely that Arnold using steroids was more fact than fiction.

    Quotation from “Arnold: An Unauthorized Biography”

    “Marnul had learned about steroids and their dosages from Steve Reeves, whom he had first met in France during a 1952 vacation, and was willing to give Arnold the necessary injections of the steroid Primobolin, the champagne of steroids, two or three times a week. The injections began almost immediately after Arnold started training as a bodybuilder. So did steroid tablets, namely Dianabol. Austrian bodybulilder who trained with him remembers, “Arnold took steroids in doses that terrified the other bodybuilders. I saw him swallow eight or nine Dianabols at a time. Then he would take a gulp of milk, a handful of protein tablets, and while he was still swallowing and could hardly talk, say, ‘Right, now I’m ready!’ and start training.’ According to fellow bodybuilder Rick Wayne, steroids were still part of Arnold’s life in 1966, when he offered Wayne a month’s supply of Dianabol. Wayne also says Arnold confided to him that he had been taking steroids since the age of thirteen.”

    Sergio Olivia, one of the great bodybuilders was asked by Brian D. Johnston about the use of steroids amongst him and bodybuilders of his time, this included Arnold. His interview response included things about how he believed it was a personal choice for people as to whether or not they wanted to use steroids but what he also goes on to talk about includes the fact that Arnold was one of the first people to bring steroids over to the USA. Sergio also talked about how he and people like Frank Zane, Larry Scott, Dave Draper and many others used steroids.

    Quotation from interview with Sergio Oliva:

    “Q: Could you relay your own experience with drug use?

    Sergio Oliva: This is an area of great interest for people. I don’t care who wants to take steroids, because that’s a personal choice… that’s his life. Now, today, everybody has access to them. I even saw in one of the big magazines that Arnold denies having used them, but Arnold was one of the first to bring steroids over to America. And everybody in the old days used them: Zane, Columbu, myself, Arnold, Larry Scott, Harold Poole, Dave Draper, and even Steve Reeves. There’s no way to deny it. It wasn’t much, nothing like today. But the development of drugs is much different. I used decca and dianabol, and that was something really big at the time; and decca was not considered that bad. It was even prescribed by doctors to help make your bones strong. Today you have guys weighing 200 pounds, and six months later they weigh 250-300 pounds! So you know these guys are taking something unbelievable. When they say they haven’t taken any thing, you know that it’s phony.”

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    Yep, I think most folks don't think this is BS KC. Surfdude...I know you want with all your heart to believe that his family has a 'history of heart valve problems' (like that's a real hereditary disorder that is always handed down thru generations...what's it called by the way?) I think most folks (we're all probably just cynical ignoramuses) are pretty sure that you don't get that big without chemicals regardless of what the Terminator and all his followers tell you. Thinking about it...it's pretty cool...it's like REALLY making a deal with the devil and it working out great all your life but the debt comes due and he's starting to pay it now. He's had an AWESOME life...I think many people would trade theirs for his. Regardless of what he did to get where he is, I don't think he regrets it...I think the world is kind of better off from his contributions...even thou his body is tore up from it. Thanks Arnold!
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    You sound like a wrestling fan who refused to believe that all of those guys from our childhood were druged up to the max.
     
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    I’m not denying Arnold used steroids. I just don’t believe it dominated his training regimen nor do I believe it has anything to do with his heart valve problems. Some of you’ll act like he’s been on steroids his whole life or something. I don’t believe you can in any way deny the amount of work he put in to get where he got. I’m sure he took other supplements and nutrients no doubt. But, we’re talking steroids here and some of you are speculating it is the reason for his heart valve issues because he did so many over many years and has nothing to do with family history like Arnold said his doctors told him.
     
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    I have no idea if it as anything to do with his current health problems. I love the guy, he's an icon. But you seem to be turning blind eye on this one. Every single NFL lineman, wrestler, bodybuilder, Olympic athlete, etc...in the 70's was juiced to the gills. That was the culture, and it's no secret. That's just how it was.
     
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    No question Arnold worked very hard and was an incredible competitor.

    Having said that, the claims made years ago by competitive body builders that they only used steroids in the weeks before the competition is nonsense. The top body builders would take more and more steroids to have an advantage.

    Dorian Yates is one of the best bodybuilders ever and he has discussed it. Said in private the conversations are vastly different.

    As for whether steroids have caused his problems, I can’t say for sure that his heart issues are related to steroids but heart issues are extremely common in steroid using body builders.

    Have you seen him lately?
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    Roids hurt your heart because of insane lipids (heart disease) and HGH means enlarged heart. Arnold's heart problems are with his valves.

    Unless someone can show a link between testosterone and heart valves this is just another blame all health problems on roids ie lyle alzado
     
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    FDA needs an urgent overhauling,they do their best to ruin it for those who want to wear a thong and flex their muslces.i.e
    smoking does boost testosterone level
    ,also a high bone density count in older population should be something nice but they say this's an indicator of cancer
     

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