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Right Wing Fox Analyst Quits - Calling it a Propaganda Network

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. krnxsnoopy

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    This is the real reason why white evangelicals will overlook pedophile Roy Moore and adulterous Donald Trump.
     
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  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Let's be honest, 1/3 of this country can't admit they hate the darkies.
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Hmmm, I'd break that up. 1/6 is happy to admit it now and feel free to admit it. Another 1/6 is still more cautious. Just look at some of the folks on the BBS, past (e.g. Deji) and present (you know them).
     
  4. mdrowe00

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    ...um...you CAN do the math on that, right B-Bob?

    1/6 + 1/6 = 1/3?

    I could be wrong, though. Brainwashed liberal Muslim wannabe Negros like myself ain't supposed to count numbers like that...
     
  5. mdrowe00

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    ...All I'm saying, Sweet Lou 4 2, is that I hardly consider this action by Colonel Peters a "mea culpa" or anything along the lines of valorous or patriotic. Sound and fury, signifying nothing, in essence.

    And we all have plenty of evidence already of how the right will behave/respond.

    Debate has already been sparked. Lines have already been drawn. Hats have already been assigned. Some of those hats fit too well, even.

    I think enough lines have been drawn in the dirt (and that's another thing I do thank Donald Trump specifically for) that everybody pretty much knows where s/he stands on most of the big things in our nation.

    I've heard that discretion is often the better part of valor...so timing matters. Especially given how little time we have on this planet as human beings.

    Republicans and/or conservatives now lamenting or rejecting the monstrous thing they "birthed", and fed, and nurtured and courted (this willful disregard for tact and decency and honesty that they have continuously drummed into the ears of those who, in all honesty, wanted to hear exactly what they were being told)...

    ...means that "forgiveness"...for those of callous ego or contemptuous thought... is easier to ask for (and more palatable) than it is to seek permission.

    Is all of this funny? You betcha it is. I like watching disaster movies as much as the next Negro. And what's reality T.V. supposed to be if not revelatory and contemporaneously funny?

    Is all of this a sort of comeuppance? Well yeah...I guess...I suppose karma carries about the same weight as Christianity nowadays...

    Do some people just want to watch the world burn? Well, a fondness for torchs has gone up a hell of a lot recently. Even seemed like a good idea, right up until the moment the flames reach their own backsides, and they remember that they didn't put on their asbestos underwear.

    Colonel Peters, or anybody else who decides to, can come out into the light anytime they want. Better to do it now while it still at least looks like it's a free country, I guess.

    They don't get to tell anybody how bright that light is, though.

    Nobody can get out in front of something that they weren't ever really behind in the first place.

    "I can't believe what you say, because I see what you do." --James Baldwin
     
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  6. DonnyMost

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    FOX News was started as a political project. Not a media project.

    It began with the objective of promoting a conservative agenda.

    News was never the focus. It's simply a byproduct at best and at worst a conduit for ideology.

    Lots of people complain that the news media has a liberal bias, so FOX acts as a counterweight to that.

    Journalism is a liberal business. It takes creativity, openness, and empathy. All fairly liberal traits.

    But at the end of the day the liberalism of it is not the driving factor. It's a coincidental and inherent part of the industry.

    Kind of like how law enforcement and finance and typically dominated by conservative leaning people.

    Sure, there are some heavily liberal media outlets out there, especially now in an age where polarization = ratings.

    But FOX is a different animal. Even the most ardent conservatives I know think it is hyper-partisan to the point of brain rot if you indulge too much.
     
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  7. B-Bob

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    Yes. That's the point. Other poster said 1/3 are just afraid to admit their racism. I said 1/3 is correct # but half of those people are worse in some respect: they are willing to proclaim their racism, even march for it with torches, etc.
     
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    De nada.
    You're funnier that you give yourself credit for.

    ...and those who are "afraid" to admit their racism aren't really...they'll take what they can get from racism as long as they don't have to get their own hands dirty...

    ...we've kinda gone over, you and I, more than a few times, how Germans got "won over" by the Nazis in the 1930s and looked the other way at genocide because it suited their own purposes...

    ...it is no surprise all of these racial "misunderstandings" are being brought to light now...because they've always been there.

    It's not the guys with the sheets and hoods who want the right to parade down Main Street, USA, that I've ever worried about overmuch, B-Bob.
    You may not necessarily know who they are (hoods were a great idea, it seems, tiki-torchers)...but at least you know what they're about, and they've got no compunction about being upfront about it.

    (There's an odd sort of respect I have for a David Duke that I'll never have for that clown legislator, Rep. Steve Scalise (R), who tried to convince people he didn't know who Duke was when he went to his fundraisers and let him raise all kinds of money for his campaign...)

    It's the ones who want "open conversations" after they harass people for miles in some idiotic, racist road-rage episode that are the problem.
    It's the ones who tell you how racist they aren't right before they say something racist that are the problem.

    ...used to love a T.V. show called "In the Heat of the Night"...starred the late Carroll O'Connor as a Mississippi police chief working his way through his prejudices toward black people...and doing a good job of it, too (I don't think he got as much credit for the role as he should have...you could almost forget he played the most lovable racist in TV history at one time)...

    ...one episode, O'Connor's character gets an invite to go down to the state capital to witness the execution of a black prisoner he arrested many years earlier...driver of a getaway car of armed robbers...one of whom murdered someone...

    ...Negro says to O'Connor when he visits him in his cell, that O'Connor said to the court at the day of his trial, that he was "...the meanest n!gger he ever did see...and he'd seen some..."

    ...after the execution, O'Connor returns to his police department and has a talk with his Chief of Detectives and his lead Sergeant about the death penalty.

    O'Connor, after being shaken by the execution he witnessed, posits that if everybody is for the death penalty, then the only way to do it humanely is to tell the condemned that he's forgiven all his crimes, and that he's free to go.

    ...and when the realization of what you tell him sets in...
    ...and a big smile comes over his face...
    ...you shoot him in the back of the head.

    Half-measures (or in this case, thirds;)) often generate the same result as doing nothing. And there's no difference between a silent insult and a shouted curse.

    Me?

    I'd rather see it coming than wonder what the hell hit me...
     
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  9. B-Bob

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    Great post. I liked that series too. O'Connor... I always wondered about him. He seemed to love to explore this, via Bunker as well. Another phenomenal, more comic performance.
     
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    ...I didn't really get that introspective into that character and show, B-Bob.

    Honestly, I just liked seeing country-a$$ white folks getting jammed up in their own bootstraps...:D;)
     
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    Well I'm just semi-happy that there are some Republicans that have enough character to call out what's being done on the right. The sad part is that I wish there were a lot more. It's shocking and disheartening to see so many Republicans approve of what's going on.
     
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    It's certainly a spectrum. What I meant by 1/3 are afraid to admit - is the people who use a lot of twisted logic to justify killings of very innocent black 12 year old kids or condemn BLM as a hate group because of what a few people did at their rallies or because they want reparations in the form of college education vouchers. Those are the people who you just know are very racially biased but rationalize it as based on something else.

    The Republican weren't against food stamps and welfare until there was the narrative created that such people were black (even though the majority were white). This is how the Republican party got its base to be against "big gov't" and social programs and for cutting taxes for the rich. Because no one would support cutting taxes for the rich - but they would support cutting spending on black people which in turn could fund tax cuts for the rich.
     
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    ...also, I think the thing about Carroll O'Connor's performances...being as grounded as they were in his arts background and education...was that I would never believe he was at all racist.

    I think precisely because he embraced roles like that at the times he did (particularly as Archie Bunker), he understood both the hilarity of racism as well as the depravity of it.

    O'Connor, being of Irish descent, growing up in Queens, New York in the 1940s, probably knew more about the subtleties of racism than you might imagine at first glance.

    Anyone familiar with the Irish at that time knew about a lot of the deals made with politicians to give Irish immigrants preferential treatment in relation to black people, for instance...

    ...but ultimately, I don't think O'Connor plays either role as convincingly, or becomes as respected and beloved for them both...if he didn't really believe deep in his heart how wrong racism was and of how damaging it was...to everybody...
     
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