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Right Wing Fox Analyst Quits - Calling it a Propaganda Network

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Surprise surprise!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/20/business/media/fox-news-analyst-ralph-peters.html


    A longtime analyst for Fox News is leaving the network, saying that he could not “in good conscience” remain with an organization that, he argued, “is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”

    In a searing farewell note sent to colleagues on Tuesday, Ralph Peters, a Fox News strategic analyst and a retired lieutenant colonel in the United States Army, castigated the network for its coverage of President Trump and the rhetoric of its prime-time hosts.

    “In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration,” Colonel Peters wrote in his message, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times.

    “Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association,” he added. “Now I am ashamed.”

    Without citing them by name, Colonel Peters, 65, wrote that Fox News’s prime-time anchors “dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the F.B.I., the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller.”

    “I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove,” he wrote.

    Fox News responded on Tuesday by saying it was “extremely proud of our top-rated prime-time hosts and all of our opinion programming.”

    “Ralph Peters is entitled to his opinion despite the fact that he’s choosing to use it as a weapon in order to gain attention,” the network said in a statement.

    Colonel Peters, who appeared regularly on Fox News and the Fox Business Network — including as recently as Monday morning — spent more than two decades in the Army, eventually specializing in Russian intelligence. He began appearing as a television commentator in the late 1990s, and signed an exclusive contract with Fox in 2008.

    Typically hawkish in his views, Colonel Peters supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and was a strong proponent of confronting President Vladimir Putin of Russia. He was a fervent critic of former President Barack Obama, deriding his foreign policy as weak, and was briefly suspended by the network in 2015 after using a vulgarity to describe Mr. Obama during an appearance on Fox Business.

    In an email interview on Tuesday, Colonel Peters wrote that his letter had been “intended for internal consumption,” adding: “I am not trying to grandstand. Fox was good to me for many years.”

    He said he informed Fox News on March 1 that he did not plan to renew his contract, which expires toward the end of this month.

    “As a retired military officer,” he said, “I simply could not continue with Fox in good conscience.”

    Fox News’s commentary shows, like “Hannity” and “Fox & Friends,” have become stalwart defenders of Mr. Trump and his administration, often criticizing Mr. Mueller, the special counsel, and law enforcement agencies that have been investigating possible ties between the president’s associates and Russian interference into the 2016 election.

    Fox News remains the No. 1 cable news network despite recent changes in its prime-time lineup. Since 2017, the conservative pundits Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham have replaced Megyn Kelly, who left for NBC News, and Bill O’Reilly, who was fired after a harassment scandal.

    Colonel Peters’s message to his colleagues, which was first reported by BuzzFeed News, included the caveat that not every Fox News host is “a propaganda mouthpiece — some have shown courage.” Colonel Peters also described his respect for colleagues at the Fox Business Network and reporters at Fox News, whom he called “talented professionals in a poisoned environment.”

    An author of historical fiction and spy thrillers who writes a regular column in The New York Post, Colonel Peters gained notice in recent weeks after he called for an assault weapons ban in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Fla.
     
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    Nice to see someone speaking the truth and taking a stand.
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    This must be the non-racist, non-white supremest and wholesome discussion Fox watchers enjoy:

     
    #4 REEKO_HTOWN, Mar 27, 2018
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    Jeez... not only is this intended to stir up bigotry... but it isn't even factually correct. His concluding comment that "our leaders don't live in diverse areas"; former President Obama lives in Hyde Park in Chicago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park,_Chicago
     
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    Obama isn't our leader, Trump is. And he lives in New York City, a place known for its lack of diversity.
     
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    About time someone has come to there senses about the lies that were coming from that network.
     
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    Lies scattered throughout, with the central message clear. "Save the White People!"

    He says that, "No nation, no society has ever changed this much, this fast." A complete and utter lie pulled straight out of his White ass. He claimed that, "People who grew up in Hazelton return to find out they can't communicate with people who now live there, and that's bewildering to people." Good lord. He makes no attempt to hide his bigotry, his race baiting. Yes, that's what a White Nationalist looks like, folks. Notice the careful attire, straight out of the 1950's. That's no accident, either.

    The many out there watching Fox News who actually believe what they are putting out is astonishing, and it makes those people who continue to watch that "news" source appear uneducated, bigoted, and uninformed about what is going on in their country and in the world around them, in my opinion and the opinion of a lot of others. Meanwhile, people around the world are wondering what has happened to the great country that had been a beacon of hope and freedom for so long and for so many. The America represented by Mr. trump and his lies, and Fox News and their lies is not an America I recognize.
     
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    Meh.
    Whatever.

    I suppose you take whatever you can get (that's what "winning" is about), but as the colonel said himself, he had no problem for the balance of his time at Fox News lambasting the previous occupier of the Executive Chair (to censure by his own network, even, who were paying him to be just that vitriolic)...

    ...I don't usually acknowledge statements of incontrovertible fact (like the sun is in the sky or fire is hot or water is wet or Donald Trump is a scurrilous human being), no matter how well someone's woven them into contemptuous opinions. Takes no skill other than that which human beings possess, to pass that ability off as high-level, analytical intelligence or deeply salient morality...

    ...what this amounts to at the end of the day, now that the colonel has his "honorable discharge"...especially considering that now, it seems, he and like-minded others can finally see the emperor strutting around Rome with a bunch of tiki torches aflame in his (tiny) hands...

    ...torches they helped light, by the way, with this oxymoronic (or maybe just plain moronic) "fair and balanced" opinionated journalism for years and years...

    ...is the dregs of victory.

    "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined".
    --Pyrrhus, Greek General and King of Epicus, 297–272 B.C.
     
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    delete
     
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    The sun is in space.
     
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    Touche.

    That's why there's people walking around arguing about how flat the earth is, too...;)
     
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    The sky is in space.
     
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    The earth is in space.
     
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    [​IMG]

    So the earth is in the sky.
     
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    There was a steam rocket in space, or somewhere.
     
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    The United States of Space. M-A-R-S. Mars b*tches!
     
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  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Not sure what you are saying exactly, but the point is to provoke debate - I'm curious to see how the right defends the propaganda network - will they attack the colonel as a RINO? What's their strategy?
     
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    That's one of the most despicable things I've ever heard from a news outlet.

    ETA: I guess it's good that they are just being honest about how they feel, putting it in the open and whatnot
     
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    I had a baby with a fairly dark complected Mexican girl that came out looking like a white kid. He does tan well though, but has sun block lathered on regularly in the summer. Regardless he is more fare skinned than both of my parents. That's even more despicable than that video haha.
     
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