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Nick Wright on James Harden is the 'best offensive player' D'Antoni ever seen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shaq2Yao, Mar 23, 2018.

  1. larsv8

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    Lets just look at some numbers for some notable players in the postseason

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    Higher TS% than Michael Jordan.

    NOT GOOD ENOUGH
     
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  2. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Then you remember rules are different. Post their numbers Reg Season vs Playoffs too.

    Nobody is predicting/cheering for Harden to be subpar in the postseason. I'm just stating what happened.

    Harden is having his best season and has his best team, so future is bright. Dita is being flossed.
     
  3. D-rock

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    CP3 also playing with most talented player he's ever played with as well.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    I don't even know what .413 refers to. Honus Wagner's batting average in 1904?

    Regarding the tardiness of my reply - since it's spring break and a nice day - I took my kids out for the day rather than trade clowns with some shitbird who likes to drop his pants and **** on the Rockets whenever they achieve any kind of success (such as their historically greatest season led by a should be unanimous mvp..?)

    You remind me of that loser @Kwame , remember that yokel? he's the jackhole who got so upset with the Rockets epic 2015 comeback against the Clippers that he ended up having a breakdown and leaving the board.

    Is he actually one of your sock id's? there's a lot of similarity betwixt you two.
     
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  5. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Keep being a good mother to your kids.
     
  6. Swapshop

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    The thing with you is you act like we are saying Harden sucks are isn't great. In fact I am very satisfied that he is our star player and actually probably would have him over LeBron as our franchise player (due to him being younger). I think he is wonderful.

    Having said all that doesn't mean he doesn't have some really bad playoff performances on the books that will be remembered.
     
  7. vlaurelio

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    Yeah but thats not on him. Just like you said, even lebron couldnt have single handedly carried the rockets last year farther than harden.

    Harden didnt hold back the rockets all this time. Its the other way around.

    If he replaced curry in 15 or kd in 17 he be champ now with a finals mvp under his belt
     
  8. Houstunna

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    When was this said ?

    That post was qualified due to age/future, not single season greatness.
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    We're talking about last year right? Who could have single handedly carried the rockets farther than harden last year?

    Unless you want to go back in time and get a younger lebron...
     
  10. Houstunna

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    The question was, "when did that poster say what you claimed he said" ?

    I realize you're bad with questions though.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    Its not my fault you cant come up with a single answer to my simple question

    Who could have single handedly carried the rockets farther last year?
     
  12. Houstunna

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    How many answers do you get before you answer ONE of mine ?

    Do tell. Everything will be okay, honey.
     
  13. Swapshop

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    I disagree. In the playoffs versus the spurs Harden had 2 and 1/2 very terrible game. The Spurs series was extremely winnable. Rockets dismantled them game 1 and Harden did have one of this best playoff games ever. He was sick that series with a cold, you can tell and I am sure that made it very hard to breathe in addition to already being overused.

    Versus GSW he had 2 good games then the rest were not so good. He comes out strong then fades away. Having said that hopefully this year something great will happen. He has a better system with more help. Everything is better and hopefully this will be his year all around. He is already MVP, maybe he can be playoff MVP is Gerald Green doesn't take it from him.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    Again, who could have single handedly carried the rockets farther last year than harden? Is refusal to answer this means no one? So you are demanding harden to achieve the physically impossible?

    Or howbout this? If harden replaced curry in 15 or kd in 17, are you sure he wouldnt have had won a chip?
     
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  15. Swapshop

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    I've stated many times on this forum that I think Curry doesn't have a true PG skill set. I don't think Curry would have gone farther than Harden. I do think LeBron with the Rockets would have beaten the Spurs and possibly KD. I don't anyone replacing Harden would have won a championship, but beaten the Spurs who didn't have their star player and if I recall their starting PG also got hurt during that series.

    So yes I think there are some that would have gotten past spurs but nobody would have won entire thing.
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    Lol so u run harden to the ground carrying the team to 55 wins 3rd seed and switch him with a well rested lebron or kd?

    No thats not how it works

    If "ill take my talents only to a team who already has at least 2 superstars and as far away from the west" lebron who won only 51 games with 2 superstars kyrie and love in the least, you even think he can win more than 50 as the only supertar in the west?

    Then what rockets less than 50 wins 4th seed if they get lucky to get past hayward jj gobert will get swept for sure by gsw in the 2nd round

    How many games did.Snake kd bandwagonner "i can't win with those cats", miss last year in the regular season again?

    And if u traded harden for lebron to the cavs to play with kyrie and love or for kd to gsw to ppay with steph klay dray ai hell be in the finals either way and a champ with gsw

    Stop making it look that cp3, tucker, lmm, green, jj are just slightly better than pbev dekker harrel lou
     
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  17. SWTsig

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    What a fun game! It's like you're leading a modern day crusade against anyone who has even one semi-negative thought against your lord and savior James Harden. Who needs any sort of evidence when you have faith, right?

    I especially love how you can use your own purely hypothetical scenarios as proof to back up your claims but no one else can. How about you prove to us why lebron couldn't have led the rockets any further? Spare me your conjecture, I want definitive proof that he couldn't do it. Since apparently that's how you determine the validity of ones argument I look forward to reading your well-thought out response!

    Btw, before you and @SamFisher try and make yourselves self-anointed martyrs at the altar of the bearded one, I actually think your lord and savior will lead us to the promised land this postseason! Uh oh.... your narrative! What shall become of it?!?!
     
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  18. vlaurelio

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    Is lebron needing at least 2 other superstars to even consider joining a team hypothetical Or plain fact?

    Is kd saying he cant win with those cats then bandwagonned with a 4 star 73 win superteam after they were up 3 to 1 then got swept 3 games hypothetical or plain fact?

    Did morey trade for cp3 and acquire tucker and lmm based on hypotheticals or facts and data?
     
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  19. Invisible Fan

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    Lol all this nitpicking and talk about ball dropping. Are you seeing red? Is the blood flowing?

    Take the word "totally" for setting the tone. If I were so hung up on literal points, I wouldn't say it was "only" Kobe or Jordan fans. :rolleyes:

    Do you dispute that pre-championship LeBron was known for choking in the playoffs? With The Narrativeā„¢, the regular season mvps worked against him.

    Oh I've noticed Westbrick nut huggers eating crow now that "he finally has some help" by trading players who are having career years. Anyone who isn't blind and can read numbers can do that. It doesn't take back people who will still trade Harden for him because they think he performs better in the playoffs or espn personalities like Doris Burke saying westbrook should win mvp because he's averaging yet another triple double.

    Have you heard? I think you haven't.
     
  20. Houstunna

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    What were Love and Kyrie doing before they joined LeBron ?

    They can't even win games *as teammates* without him.
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    .413 or nah ?
     

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