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Harden MVP watch 2018

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jayfree, Nov 15, 2017.

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Who wins MVP 2018

  1. Harden

  2. Giannis

  3. Durrant

  4. Curry

  5. LeBron

  6. Westbrook

  7. K.Irving

  8. Porzingis

  9. Wall

  10. Refs

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  1. tmoney1101

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    Cp3 is his daddy. Harden is his uncle.
     
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  2. durvasa

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    Probably will if the Rockets make the finals, or are close to doing so.
     
  3. tmacfor35

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    That ESPN article shows why Harden won't be unanimous.

    Who will be MVP? 100%

    Who should be MVP? 87%

    Lebron James has his team under performing in a weak eastern conference. On top of that, his defense is overrated and he quit on his team in January.

    That's your MVP? Good lord ESPN.

    Michelle Beadle will probably vote for Kawahi.
     
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  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    This is as good of a chance we'll ever have to win and keep our core together...these games are meaningless in the grand scheme james should rest a couple
     
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  6. durvasa

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    LeBron is 1st and Harden is 2nd according to a new stat ESPN's analytics team came up with (total win probability added in team wins):

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...bron-james-else-responsible-most-wins-2017-18

    Harden should win, if precedent matters at all. But its funny how malleable the concept of "value" is, and how if one really wants to they can find a way to argue for different players as "most valuable".
     
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  7. jayfree

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    Lebron should win the MVP because if you take away all the games played so far and only go by this narrative.... That LEBRON comes before JAMES in his own name. BOOOM!!!! The proof is in the pudding!

    Also, if you switch their names around then Lebron Harden still has a good basketball name to it but James James.... that ain't right. I mean who names their kid James James? The MVP has to be Lebron's for that very reason only
     
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    why wouldn't precedent matter?
     
  9. arno_ed

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    It didn't last year...
    Yes i am still angry they gave the award to a stat padder who was playing for stats not wins.
     
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  10. saleem

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    That's why stats are overrated. You can't measure a player's will to win. Right now, Harden has put in nearly everything that he can to win by playing team basketball. He is no longer a sieve on defense, and he is using his off hand nicely. This shows he wants to be an NBA Champion.
     
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  11. saleem

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    No disrespect for durvasa, but he needs to read this. The stat padder who couldn't make his team better won the most valuable player of the regular season award.
     
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  12. durvasa

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    Not sure how that changes what I wrote. My point is that if we assume precedence should matter then Harden clearly is most deserving this year. All-time great team and putting up high-end “MVP” numbers.

    His case for MVP is more comparable to Curry’s two seasons ago than his case last season. Let’s not overthink this, ESPN.
     
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  14. DonKnock

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    This really shows the transition and evolution that Harden has made with his size ups.

    In the first group notice how everything is bouncy and he is staying high when coming out of the dribble moves.

    In the second group he stays much lower and he can shift his momentum much more quickly and powerfully from this low position.
    Once he sees that he has the angle, he is effectively already in a track start body position and he just takes off.
     
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  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Exactly, people don't appreciate all the nuances and adjustments that Harden adds to his game. Attacking on those ISOs, the step back 3, and he even has added a little floater to his game (faking the lob). I would like to see the floater used more on the sagging bigs.

    Harden is a student of the game. He studies the rules and the defenses to get the most out of his game.
     
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  16. hakeem94

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    hes a freaking genius!
     
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  17. tmacfor35

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    He is going to age well.
     
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  18. Mr. Dominant

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    What the hell is this?????????????????????

     
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  19. J Sizzle

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    The lengths media members go to undersell James Harden is truly fascinating.
     
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  20. Mr. Dominant

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    100% conspiracy confirmed.
     
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