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Democrats wanna address gun control, address Chicago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I've already posted ways in which the Democrats address the issue aside from gun control. But crime isn't something only the Democrats should address.
     
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    Republicans address it by wanting to protect themselves. That's the issue. They feel any gun control infringes on this
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Perhaps I am misinterpreting your post. It seems that you want Democrats to address the root causes of violence. But you are not asking Republicans to do the same because their solution is to arm themselves?
     
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    No I want Democrats to finally meet the Republicans on concerns of broken families in the sense they need to be fixed from within.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Then what does this mean? What is "it"?

    Republicans address it by wanting to protect themselves.
     
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    It is crime

    Broken homes are an essential element to crime

    Broken homes can't be fixed by government alone
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    But that doesn't address crime. It might address protection of property and/or health.
     
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    Semantics

    Stop crime or protect ourselves from crime.

    They choose protection.

    Whatever. Democrats need to address broken homes
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    And what can be done to address poverty and broken homes? I doubt anyone would disagree with fixing those two things, but there is no magic wand to wave. You can’t legislate single parent households. You can’t legislate absent fathers or mothers. Poverty has and always will exist.

    Also, while we are fixing those things why can’t we also discuss reasonable gun control laws? Why do we as a country have to deal in extremes?
     
  10. pgabriel

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    When it comes to crime, gun laws aren't really a problem. But that's not the issue.

    In a political sense, if Democrats want Republicans to meet them on gun laws, they might help themselves on addressing the broken homes element of crime.

    Everyday crime is a bigger issue than mass shootings despite media coverage
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Again, what can be done to address broken homes? What Republican ideas are out there that the Democrats refuse to work with them on? You keep saying the Democrats have to meet the Republicans, and perhaps I have missed it, what do thy need to meet them on?
     
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    'It'.
     
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    A change in rhetoric on responsibility of the homes.
     
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    What does that mean? So republicans say "responsibility begins at home " (I assume this is what you mean). If the Democrats say the same thing, what changes?
     
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    Working together instead of yelling at each other
     
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    @bobrek

    I appreciate your interest in my threads

    If I had all the answers id be doing more than talking to you

    Back to 100 pages earlier,it's a credibility issue. Democrats have to address the personal responsibility element of broken homes before making it harder to get guns
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Shouldn't it be incumbent upon both parties to work together? Why is it only a Democrat problem? That is definitely a two way street. Also, why is it the Democrat's fault for not working with Republicans yet not the Republicans fault for not working with the Democrats?
     
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    http://www.ibtimes.com/white-men-vs...6-why-are-more-african-american-males-2426793

    "Black people only represent 13.3 percent of the U.S. population while white people make up about 77 percent. But there are more black men in state prisons across the nation than there are white men."

    It is stupid all around that we are doing nothing on this. Rand Paul actually had some good ideas about prison reform. The cost we are paying per inmate is staggering. We need to stop sending people to prison for drug possession and giving insane sentences.. Get them in rehab, get them education/job training, and put them on work release programs. NYC is paying $168,000 PER INMATE PER YEAR. The national average is about 31k per year per inmate.

    We are spending 80 billion a year for prisons. How about we spend some on inner city schools, programs, jobs, etc to keep the kids off the streets and give them a chance? We could save a ton of money on the back end if our prisons aren't full. Every kid we keep out of prison is 31k a year. It adds up quick.

    Instead... Republicans go with the broken homes argument and democrats cry institutional racism. Nothing gets done.

    I don't care how or why. We need to clean up our inner cities and it has to be lead by people in the black community. People like Ray Lewis and Jim Brown are trying, but it's not enough. I was actually hoping Trump might do something on this. He met with Ray Lewis and Jim Brown at Trump Tower after being elected. So far.. I haven't seen anything.
     
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    How does republicans buying guns address broken families?
     
  20. pgabriel

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    Because Republicans are fine with gun laws

    Democrats want to change them
     

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