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2018 Spring Training Game Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Not sure what you watched last year. During the regular season, Giles was one of the top closers in baseball. The playoffs were a different story. Do you realize that July-September, Giles gave up runs in only three games? Do you realize of all AL relievers with 10+ saves, Giles had the second highest save percentage? Do you realize he was 10th among all relievers with 60+ innings in WHIP? (3rd among closers)
     
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  2. Redfish81

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    I'm not concerned about Giles facing the A's with a 3 run lead in May. They are trying to win another World Series. He is the biggest question mark on the team after his playoff performance. We also have a glut of starting pitching and I think we could also do without Gattis. Combined, McHugh and Gattis equal 11.7 million in salary. That covers most of the cost of adding Greg Holland.


    Here are 2 post season career stat lines from different hitters.....

    Games 33 Avg. .226 OBP .364 OPS. .684 HR 2 RBI 12

    Games 52 Avg. .317 OBP .417 OPS. .949 HR 9 RBI 41

    The top line is a Hall of Famer named Jeff Bagwell with massive regular season stats. The second line is Lance Berkman with lesser regular season stats.. If you have 1 at bat in the playoffs with a game on the line which one do you want up?

    Giles playoff stats:
    Appearances 7 ERA 11.74 Saves 2 IP 7.2 HR 3 BB 5 SO 10 WHIP 2.217 SO/9 11.7

    Greg Holland playoff stats:
    Appearances 12 ERA 2.31 Saves 7 IP 11.2 HR 0 BB 6 SO 15 WHIP 1.114 SO/9 11.6
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Here is a random player I found in his first postseason appearance (3 games, 12 at bats):

    .167 BA, .167 OBP, .167 SLG, .333 OPS, 0 RBI, 0 Runs scored

    Good thing the Astros didn't give up on that player in the postseason as he is ...... LANCE BERKMAN
     
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  4. HTown2017Champs

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    Stream for today's game vs. Nats?
     
  5. awc713

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    game stream, anyone?
     
  6. jim1961

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    The only reason Houston didn't chase Ken Giles out of town like Jacoby Jones is because we ended up winning the World Series. If we lost game 7 I don't think the Astros go into this season with Giles as closer. He wasn't even allowed the chance to blow the World Series because he sucked so bad. I don't expect a pitcher to be perfect. He had 7 appearances and only had ONE where he didn't give up a run. Also, 7 appearances for a closer is a more significant sample size than 12 ABs.

    I'm not saying we cut Giles, but adding Holland at the cost of Mchugh, Gattis, and a couple more million..... YES please. If Giles does turn it around now you have a monster pen.
     
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    does anyone know if walking all 3 batters is a good way to make a team? asking for a friend
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Why do they have to trade McHugh and Gattis for a free agent?
     
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    Of course they don't have to. However, I don't see the Astros spending another 12-15 million in payroll without trimming some elsewhere. Gattis and McHugh just seem the most expendable that you could actually get some value for.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Sloppy all around. You don't want to watch it. :)
     
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    Operation mole in full effect. We will reside in their heads until the day they die, likely sometime in October 2018.
     
  15. awc713

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    Martes looking good, but unfortunately his fate was already sealed last year...according to some posters
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He is really old.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You probably missed Tucker's bunt against the shift. Best at bat of any Astro of the day. Shows you how the day is going.
     
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    It didn't go well for Goes' first outing.

    12 pitches, 12 balls, 3 walks.

    If he has ANY shot at our roster, he's gonna have to get the ball over the plate.
     
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    Looked like a line drive in the box score.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Or an 800 foot HR were he missed second base and was out on appeal.
     

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