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2018 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. HillBoy

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    The talking heads in Dallas are saying that Brown could fall all the way into the 4th Round. He really personifies the term "Gamble".
     
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    The WR silliness dies, wish he’d have run/tested in Indy as I think he might have challenged some records.



    Sound familiar?
     
  3. gucci888

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    He’ll re-test at OU Pro Day so we’ll see. With a halfway decent showing, his stock will go back up quickly. But he certainly has folks running back to the film room right now I’m sure.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    he doesn't look very good on film to me, beyond being the largest dude on the field by far.

    If you watch, notice how often he has equal or lower pad level. I haven't seen it once.b he can't block downfield, because pad level is above the DB's head.

    reminds me of Denver Kirkland/Sebastian Tritola out of Arkansas a couple of years ago. people were talking them up as 2nd/3rd rounders entering draft season, too.
     
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    He was an All-American and gave up one sack in 600+ snaps; if he falls to us, I wouldn't mind taking him
     
  6. texian

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    His game tape is certainly not nearly as bad as his Combine performance -- low bar -- but I agree his pad level is poor, he's in an offense that doesn't require him to sustain for very long, he often was on an edge contain guy(John Simon), he was surrounded by a lot of good players. He's very lumbering on pulls and won't get to his spot on time in the NFL, and he's grabbing jersey at the shoulders that will draw holding flags every time. Just moving forward he can get to second level and did show downfield effort, which was practically mandatory with all of the big plays/big play makers on that squad.

    He seems pretty intelligent to me, he has had significant food issues in the past and I'm loathe to add another XSF/Nix/Newton/Allen to our group of "relationship with food" guys. His father, who was giant for his day (6'7", 360 lbs) played in NFL over 12 years missing 3 of those years due to blindness from a penalty flag hitting him in the eye, died of diabetic ketoacidosis at the age of 40.

    I'd be afraid of the physical/health red flags I think to chance it. I'd rather hit a solid single on an OT in this draft than swing for the fences and come up empty. Going to be interesting digging into Brown up to the draft.
     
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  7. zeeshan2

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    Yup

     
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    All signs point towards HOU absolutely needing to crush the un-drafted FA market. I hope we draft 1 OL, sign 1-2 veteran OLs, and then scour the un-drafted OL market for potential and depth. Texans will be irrelevant for another decade if Watson gets seriously hurt again.

    Not a big football guy, but acquiring and coaching up undrafted FA's used to be one of Rick's strengths IIRC. Excited to see what Gaines can muster up in this class. Coaching is going to be vital, too. Time to see what this staff can do. There are no more Rick excuses.

    Sidenote. With all this Lamar Jackson talk, shoutout to the Louisville QB we did draft: Dave Ragone.
     
  10. zeeshan2

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    Mike Gesicki's stock is so far up it's probably in orbit right now

    4.55 40, 41.5" vert at 6'5", 250 lbs

     
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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000918994/article/mike-mayocks-takeaways-from-day-2-of-combine
     
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    Is there that much of a correlation between NFL success and Combine results?

    I get that it's a piece of the puzzle, but just how important are the times/scores?
     
  14. texian

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    No. There are some individual drill correlations to positions and analytics guys will cobble together multi-drill correlations to specific positions, but the difficulty lies in how NFL success is defined/quantified in a way that’s useable.

    Plenty of guys who slayed the Combine pooped out in the league.
     
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    This is how I feel. I think back to Nix who we thought was a great pick-up in the 3rd and he did absolutely NOTHING. We need guys who are hungry for greatness (more so than food).
     
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    For the tight ends, apparently Gesieki is a terrible blocker, and nobody knows how good Andrews might be because he is completely uninterested in even trying - like he won't even bother to put a helmet on a cornerback down field on running plays.

    Assuming Fiedorowicz retires, he is their inline blocker and any TE they draft will be to replace his role. So those guys may be "hot" right now, but they probably won't be in the Texans' plans.

    Also, I believe Haden Hurst is supposed to be the only first round/early second round guy in this draft, so while they might like to get him, he probably won't be seen in a Texans uni either, making that list 0 for 3 for the Texans.

    edit : Watched video today. Andrews tries, just doesn't have tools or mindset. Gesieki, on the other hand... his (poor) effort and results makes it clear he thinks blocking is beneath him. never seen someone actually "whiff" multiple blocks in a row.
     
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    I have been a fan of Troy Fumagalli and Hayden Hurst.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I've tried to care, but I just can't get worked up about the draft this year with the Texans not having any first or 2nd round picks, sure they could trade up, but it's impossible to figure out who might be on the board by the time they pick.
     
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  20. texian

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    The pick, along with a couple others, that prompted O'Brien's season long rant to the GM/scouts about us needing to prioritize drafting players who "football is important to them". Nix whined about and skipped recovery work, shirked his workouts, ate like crap, played a lot of video games. Funny guy, but not driven.
     

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