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School shooting - at least 5 dead

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  1. Harrisment

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    The free market at work.
     
  2. Exiled

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    I think it's his way of apologizing to NRA for claiming he could 'd stood to the shooter without a gun
     
  3. mick fry

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    Yeah I wouldn’t blame the site. Instead of making a blanket statement why not point out why you’re dumb”er”?
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    I suspect more republicans will weigh in with real solutions. This time more people are becoming involved...

    GOP lawmaker calls on Trump to 'pause' all sales of high-powered guns
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-lawmaker-calls-trump-pause-sales-high-powered/story?id=53396642
     
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    Just to clarify the charge against CNN...

    Shooting survivor’s father admits email changes in CNN spat
    Associated Press
    Colton Haab's father acknowledges omitting some words from the email but says he didn't do it on purpose.

    Dozens of conservative websites called the network's Feb. 21 town hall forum scripted after Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School junior Colton Haab skipped the event and said the network had told him what question to ask. The websites call it proof the forum was slanted against gun rights. President Donald Trump tweeted about it on Friday, saying "Just like so much of CNN, Fake News!"

    CNN countered with a release of email exchanges between producer Carrie Stevenson, Colton Haab and his father Glenn and accused Glenn Haab of deliberately altering email sent to Fox News and the Huffington Post.

    "It is unfortunate that an effort to discredit CNN and the town hall with doctored emails has taken any attention away from the purpose of the event," the network said in a statement.

    Glenn Haab told the Associated Press he omitted some words from the email but said he didn't do it on purpose.

    "There was nothing malicious behind it," he said.

    In one exchange, 17-year-old Colton Haab proposes several questions to ask at the town hall, including one on whether to arm teachers. His father, a Republican gun owner, later emailed Stevenson a four-page document with a roughly 700-word speech and a series of questions he said Colton wanted to ask.

    Stevenson told the father the additional language he proposed was "way too long" and Colton would need to stick to the question "that he submitted." The words "that he submitted" were left off the email sent to Fox News and Huffington Post.

    CNN said Stevenson had discussed which one of Colton's several questions to ask at the forum and they mutually agreed on one using his own words and a statement he made during another television appearance.

    But Haab’s father sent the network a long speech that he insisted his son read at the town hall. CNN, citing time constraints, told Glenn they needed Colton to stick with the question “that he submitted.”

    When the elder Haab passed along the correspondence between his family and the network to media outlets, Business Insider reported, he omitted the key phrase, “that he submitted.”

    The family of a Parkland shooting survivor appears to have provided doctored emails to Fox and HuffPost in an attempt to support their claim that CNN "scripted" its Wednesday town hall. https://t.co/AdiXw2lmRz pic.twitter.com/3O5EneClcK
    — Eliza Relman (@eliza_relman) February 24, 2018

    The spat led to several conservative website stories accusing CNN of a pro-gun control bias.

    Times staff writer Kirby Wilson contributed to this report.
     
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  7. NewRoxFan

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    Well, after CNN released the emails the father owned up to it. Which really points to a larger problem (and not that dad would take a rather dishonest approach to the politicization of a terrible tragedy his child just went through), but that people seem its perfectly acceptable to bend the truth in order to support their cause. What would possess someone to doctor an email?
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Again, kudos to Dick's Sporting Goods. I used to shop at Academy because of proximity and price but I will switch to Dick's now...

     
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    All that stuff trump said he wanted in the meeting? Forget all that. The NRA has given him his real position, via Fox & Friends. Note... no restrictions on assault weapons, no changes in age, nothing that limits NRA/gun manufacturing sales...

     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    The NRA has spoken...

     
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    Don't be so rude. He omitted the phrase "that he submitted" completely in error. It wasn't to create a false sense of #fakenews around CNN.
     
  13. NewRoxFan

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    Did he "omit" the phrase or did he intentionally delete the phrase? Sure seems the latter... especially as it strengthened his claim (now disproved) that CNN was somehow "fake newsing" by preventing his son to deliver a long speech during the broadcast.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    Obviously it was intentional, sorry thought the sarcasm was obvious.

    The idea that he "accidentally" didn't include the phrase is ridiculous. Phrases don't just fall off of emails when you forward them.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    Doh, sorry, I am dumber than normal today...
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    And you're incapable of discussing the facts, so you use the genetic fallacy instead.

    You realize that the statistic you cite doesn't prove the point you are trying to make, right? If the US is ranked 111th in per capita murder rate and is STILL first in per capita firearm homicide rate, then you've clearly proven Northside's point and destroyed your own.
     
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    It is way too easy to buy a gun. IB4 @Major's pointless "regulation" bullshit.

     
  18. Major

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    Are you finally seeing the light? How many people had to die to get you to this point?
     
  19. Cohete Rojo

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    Do you have any evidence supporting your implied statement, or is this more anally-derived insight from you?
     

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