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[Netflix] The Cloverfield Paradox

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  1. GRENDEL

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    Watched it last night, didn't hate it but I didn't love it either. It's a lesser version of better films, Event Horizon and Sunshine come to mind blended with Trek Multiverse plus a Cloverfield subplot grafted on the spine.

    It's a messy movie but it's watchable, it does boast a solid cast shame the script is fairly mediocre.

    C+
     
  2. HR Dept

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    Netflix original movies (but not shows) should be held to a different standard when facing scrutiny. A 5 or 6 out of 10 is actually more like a 7 or 8.
     
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    It was aight, don't regret watching it. Didn't like how they shoehorned the Cloverfield monster in at the end.
     
  4. J Sizzle

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    The thing is...this wasn't intended to be a Netflix original movie. Paramount dumped it on Netflix only a couple weeks ago when they realized it wasn't any good. This was supposed to be a major feature film.
     
  5. Nero

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    Watched this after the SB. Makes me a total sucker.

    This movie obviously originally had ZERO to do with Cloverfield. Whether it was picked up as a spec script and had a few minor changes at that point to add in the minimal references to the WORD 'Cloverfield'.. or whether it was fully shot, and then Abrams got hold of it, and did some little reshoots, it doesn't matter.

    This movie is unconnected to either of the first two movies. AT ALL.

    It reminds me a bit of Alien 3, which was a generic monster movie which could have been made entirely stand-alone with minor changes and had nothing to do with the Alien franchise at all, and it would have ended up being essentially the same exact movie.

    This one was like that. Nonsensical, random unexplained occurrences, zero-budget scenes in cars and in small rooms.

    Bleh.

    3/10
     
  6. dmenacela

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    Watched 5 minutes and passed.
     
  7. marks0223

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    About time a Cloverfield movie get's it own story from start to finish. These last two "Cloverfield" movies were intended to be their own movies but had Cloverfield squeezed in. The way Cloverfield has gone kind of reminds me of the Fast N Furious movies. Need to get back to it's roots in the 4th Cloverfield.
     
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    Event Horizon, so far, has done opening a gate to an evil alternate universe the best.
     
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  9. Surfguy

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    So, the only thing this film had to do with "Cloverfield" is the same time they were up on that space station and accidentally shooting themselves into an alternate universe...the whole monster phenomenon was unfolding at the same time back on Earth just by mere coincidence and completely unrelated to what they were doing? Then, that gave them the excuse to lump this in the "Cloverfield" film set? It wasn't "they did this and caused that". It was "oh...this just happened to be going on at the same time the astronauts were trying to solve the energy crisis back on Earth". Also, the monster phenomenon happening back on Earth would have coincided with the original film's timeline. It would have had to. But, in the original, there was no energy crisis back on Earth. Am I missing something here? They have screwed this whole thing up imo. The third film should have never tied in. It cleared up nothing and it just made everything a muddled mess imo.
     
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    I thought it was the particle accelerator that caused the monsters to come out.
     
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    I guess that is what they were going for...versus them just invading from space. It's probably not worth contemplating. Sorry I brought it up. lol
     
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    The assertion is that the colliding particles, had the consequence of colliding dimensions in the multiverse.

    The theory of the multiverse is that there is an infinite number of dimensions where every concevieable thing occurs.

    By colliding multiverses you would have spillage of one dimension into the next, ie the colors of the players on the fooze ball table.

    The premise is that a dimension where giant monsters exist spilled into their dimension.

    That was clear, even though the movie was messy.
     
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    Maybe once the particle accelerator was activated it opened up a path for invaders from a different multiverse to invade the original film's Earth.

    We just need a legit sequel to the first where they clean up everything from this movie and 10 Cloverfield Lane.
     
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    The only segment that connects the movies is Donal Logue's TV interview where he is against the particle accelerator because he believes monsters and demons from another dimension will be able to enter theirs. It's a 15-second scene in the background. Seems very insignificant in the moment.

    That shows you how much thought was put into the writing to connect it to Cloverfield.
     
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    Am I the only one who likes the fact JJ Abrahms isn't concerned about tying anything together. I've read that his franchise is merely about setting a consistent tone for a set of movies. I like the idea of each being a different perspective of the same event (somewhat), but I'm not even sure if that is his intention, and he spends little time per movie tying anything together ... the movies each standalone by themselves, with a similar tone -- ie movies capturing characters who don't know what the hell is going on.

    If he wants to tie this together with some ending about Earth vs the Aliens, fine. But I'm neither expecting him to do that, nor think it's necessary.


    That said, it's fun speculating about the Cloverfield universe and what is happening wrt the Aliens in Movie 1.
    Remember, the Original was a "Found Footage" plot. We were watching a recovered tap from Manhattan in a DoD case file called "Cloverfield" for "multiple sightings."

    What I don't remember is how long in the future the DoD people were who were watching the tape footage. How do we know anything about whether there was a energy-crisis or a Cloverfield Station or anything ... since the setting of Cloverfield was actually in the future.

    Also, as for timelines, do we know how long the characters were in the bunker in 10 Cloverfied lane? When she comes out, apparently humans are making a comeback.
     
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    I didn't catch that where they actually tied it. I must have been too busy rolling my eyes around my skull.
     
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    Agreed. This movie was a dud, but the overall premise for the series is cool.

    Having said that...I think it's weird that the Cloverfield and Paradox feature the same monster, while 10 Cloverfield Lane features...alien spaceships? Or something? Why is 1 different from the other two? Just kind of a weird inconsistency more than anything.
     
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    That interview not only mentioned this could open a door to demons and monsters but that those monsters could appear in past, present, and future. That statement had to be to tie the original Cloverfield that we assume took place at present time with this Cloverfield that takes place in the future where there is an energy crisis.
     
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    More than one type of demon/monster as a result of that particle accelerator failure.
     
  20. Nero

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    Well, as I mentioned earlier, I don't believe this movie was originally conceived as having anything at all to do with the 'Cloverfield' universe.

    It looks very much to me like someone said 'Hey, look, we have this extremely crappy sci-fi movie, we spent a fair chunk of change making it, we are not going to make a dime on this thing. Jenkins! Figure out a way we can make some of our money back on this giant turd sandwich we paid for!'

    So some genius says 'Hey, Netflix is on a crazy spending spree right now, what if we sell it to them?' 'Yeah ok, but we have to have some kind of hook, or they won't want to pay more than pennies.'

    Some other guy raises his hand.. 'Hey, my uncle worked in post-production on Cloverfield, and he told me as a joke that this God Particle thing we made could just as easily be one of their Cloverfield movies, all it would take would be maybe a week of reshoots and another week in editing..'

    'That's stupid, Abrams would never go for that!' 'Yeah, I know, but it's the best idea anyone has had. Someone call Netflix and see what they think.'

    Ten minutes later..

    'OMG, you'll never guess what Netflix said!' 'What?' 'They said they would love to have it, and offered to pay 50 million for it, as long as Abrams' name is attached, and they can have it in time for the Super Bowl!' 'No way! The entire budget for the whole thing was less than 20 million!' 'I know, right! They are all on crack over there.'

    'Miss Johnson, get Abrams on the phone, tell him I have a helluva deal for him.'

    And so Abrams returns the call, and the rest is history.

    Abrams says, 'Hey there Smith. You want what? My name? For what? THAT piece of crap? I read that script, it doesn't have anything to do with Cloverfield!'

    'I know, JJ, but hear me out. Just write in a couple of scenes of a guy being interviewed on tv, talking about giant monsters, and we'll have everyone say the word 'Cloverfield' a lot, like it actually means something.'

    'Nobody will want to watch that! And what about my good name??'

    "Look, it's like three pages of dialog total, just come in, spend a week in Jersey doing a couple re-shoots, and give us the CGI of your big monster from that first movie, we'll stick it in at the end, it'll be great.'

    'Smith, I am not doing that, no way.'

    'We'll give you ten million.'

    'I'll be there Monday morning.'
     
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